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Re: What does 'se'nnight' mean
« Reply #36 on: Monday 19 December 22 19:16 GMT (UK) »
It wasn't me that suggested Shoulda, etc. It was Arthur. He posted immediately after me so you must have missed him  ;D

Indeed - I've only just read Brigid's reply, and I was about to own up and let Gadget off the hook, but you've had plenty of time to get in first. And I possibly wasn't being entirely serious... ;) ;) ;)

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Re: What does 'se'nnight' mean
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 18:45 GMT (UK) »
I have seen this a few times in newspaper records as well. I just saw "se'nnight" for a man baptised aged 90 in Tenterden, as he had never been baptised before.
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Re: What does 'se'nnight' mean
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 22:55 GMT (UK) »
“Should of” bothers me too.

Brigid, in your reply #25, you wrote:

“In 1980s we were fed up of masculine pronoun being used for all objects and profession's we used s/he for anyone who looked away”


I don’t understand the sentence, but Isn’t “fed up of” a bit like “should of”? Shouldn’t it be “fed up with”?
(Probably no apostrophe in professions either. )

Sorry to be picky, but also looking for clarification as sometimes I’m not sure what is correct, or not.  ;)

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Re: What does 'se'nnight' mean
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 21 December 22 03:29 GMT (UK) »
Ruskie I have always said " fed up of "
& Not noticed that others said " fed up with "

I suspect that you are correct and "with " is the one taught in grammar books

But it might be one of those like " less " + "fewer" where the modern usage has become alternative correct usage .

I have not looked at a grammar book for ages ...I used to collect them  for examples of changes .
I had one that was written to teach french children
With the sentence " what of the clock is it? "
Ive never heard anyone ask the time like that .!

I spent 13 ears teaching the correct reply to
 " How are you ? "
Is " I'm fine thank you "
& That
"I'm good " signifies well behaved .

On return to my native country I heard all the young people say " I'm good " and now it sounds natural to me tho I still don't use it myself.

Apologies for the  strange ending in reply

 I think I drifted off to sleep while typing + spell check took over .When I saw " looked away" it was too late to modify ..wondered if anyone would notice .

We  used s/he for everyone ,including dogs and soft toys .

My sister is a translator and uses "she " in all gender non-specific phrases whenever she can.
For example "The engineer arrived SHE was late"
It "kinda," redresses the  language gender imbalance. 😁

I don't know if anyone has noticed but past few months I've been trying to write gender neutral sentences in support /solidarity of / transsexual/ transgender friends .
(Whose personal pronouns have changed ) It's really hard because we have years of sexist language biais built into us .

Also when talking about family history we are talking usually about specific people who had specific genders not a child + their grandparent.

But I can't get my head around "they./them" use for a single person.

I'm going to write a comedy sketch about it and about the norms for describing LGBTQ  people have changed within my lifetime + how   language is used  to divide rather than unite people.


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Re: What does 'se'nnight' mean
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 22 December 22 11:19 GMT (UK) »
I may be wrong but I don’t think that “fed up of” is incorrect in that, like “fed up with” it is a prepositional phrase, while “should have” is a verb form, and to me, “should of” is a spelling mistake. On this side of the ocean we pronounce “should have” and “should of” the same way.

I am not sure less and fewer are now considered the same, but correct me if I’m wrong.  It’s the same issue with “majority” and “most” are used interchangeably when they do not have the same purpose- majority referring to an amount that can be counted, most can be used either way.

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Re: What does 'se'nnight' mean
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 10 January 23 00:45 GMT (UK) »
Ahhhhh ... we can delpore these things til we're blue in the face and the cows come home, but we're no more able to turn back the tide of ignorant misuse than dear of king Canute (except now we're expected to spell him Cnut ... which just looks like a teenager's attempt to circumvent a profanity filter!)

The one that gets me every time is that "led" seems to be falling out of use in written English, and even supposedly learned journals and newspapers have been known to print something along the lines of "this has lead to a lot of consternation".

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