Catherine Ringrose?

[robbowa]

Your image is from Ancestry Western Australia Passengers

....Minero.....1884.....

open any name....go to page 44 of 90.


Can you please list all the information on the  the marriage certificate

STAMP Catherine  marr.   WILLIAMS   John Anthony   @   Northampton

year of marriage  1884   year of registration 1886    # 6427

Was the marriage registered late?   Why?


Added...no, that is Catherine, not your Louisa....but interesting to see another STAMP in WA.

When and where did your Louisa marry...to whom?

Hi Wivenhoe

Louisa had 4 children here in Australia with John Carter, who was born in New South Wales around 1852. They were never married because he was still married to a Sarah Saxby in NSW, whom he also had 4 children with and he subsequently abandoned all of them.

Louisa and John's children were named John Thomas, Frances Lewis Louisa, Nora Minnie and Edward John Carter.

Cheers,
Rob.

[robbowa]

I can't view the Ancestry record.  Is it the same as this one?

1871 Living at Caledonian Crescent, St James Clerkenwell, Holborn, London & Middlesex

Samuel and Louise Nash with children Ellen J, Henry S, Herbert, Louisa and William W.  All children born in Middlesex.

Registration district Holborn
Piece number 391
Folio 8
Page 10

There is a marriage in MQ 1876 Pancras 1b 127 of a John Edmund Stamp to a Louisa Nash.

However further investigation shows it can't be this family as the Louisa born in 1868 is still there in the 1891 census. 

Perhaps you can give me details of the 1871 census so that I can find the one you have. Head of household's name, birth year and place of birth should do.

Here's the info from the 1871 census:

Name:   Louisa Stamp
Age:   4
Estimated Birth Year:   1867
Relation:   Daughter
Gender:   Female
Where born:   London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish:   St Andrew Holborn
Ecclesiastical parish:   St John The Evangelist
County/Island:   London
Country:   England
Registration district:   Holborn
Sub-registration district:   St George the Martyr
ED, institution, or vessel:   9
Household schedule number:   197
Piece:   372
Folio:   19
Page number:   31
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
Sarah Stamp
37   Wife
Thomas Stamp
6   Son
Louisa Stamp   4   Daughter

Apologies for the formatting, I just copy/pasted it from Ancestry. Strangely there was no Head of house listed, only Sarah the wife.

Cheers,
Rob.

[Girl Guide]

This is a surname that can be corrupted to Stemp, Stunt, Stent etc. etc.  I can't seem to find anything likely that follows on from the census record that you gave me. 

You can spend hours searching and come up with possibilities but without concrete information it will be hard to find the correct Louisa.

Perhaps other Rootschatters will have some ideas as to how to find her.

[robbowa]

You are right. On several Australian certs she is listed as Louisa Stemp.

We think this is the same Louisa in the 1881 England census...14 years old now compared to 4 years old in 1871:

Name:   Louisa Stamp
Age:   14
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1867
Relationship to Head:   Servant
Gender:   Female
Where born:   Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:   St Pancras
County/Island:   London
Country:   England
Street Address:   48 Hampden St
Education:
Employment status:   
.
Occupation:   Servant
Registration District:   Pancras
Sub registration district:   Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel:   12b
Neighbors:   View others on page
Piece:   202
Folio:   76
Page Number:   32
Household Members:   
Name   Age
James Stone   36
Harriett Stone   36
Willie Stone   11
Minnie Stone   3
Reginald Stone   1
Louisa Stamp   14

Working as a 14 year old servant for the Stone family in St Pancras, London. We couldn't find any death or marriage records for this Louisa, and she doesn't show up in any other England censuses. So we're going with this one 3 years after this census, age 17, she hopped a ship to Australia for a new life. It would be really nice to know for sure though.

Thank you very much for your input!

Cheers,
Rob.

[Girl Guide]

Could you double check the name of the ship please?  The closest name that came up was Minerva, putting in Minero only produces a list of likely names of people.

[maddys52]

Definitely the Minero. As wivenhoe said, page 44 (of 90)
https://www.ancestry.com.au/imageviewer/collections/1684/images/31730_222261-01048?

Search for arrive 1884 Fremantle (exact)
in the Western Australia, Australia, Crew and Passenger Lists, 1852-1930 set.

[robbowa]

Yes. On Ancestry (at least), the manifest wasn't indexed, so a search for Minero or the passenger names came up empty.

On Trove, there are snippets of when the Minero left London and when it arrived in Australia. I've attached the top of page 1 of the Minero's manifest.

Cheers,
Rob.

[Girl Guide]

Unfortunately it looks as though Find My Past does not have that record.  I tried various ways but nothing comes up in connection with 1884 and Freemantle.