Passport for Canada 1930

[dbree]

Hi,

Did you look for a will for Elizabeth?

DB

[Turtle Dove]

Hi,
I haven't tried that but I get the impression Canadian privacy laws wouldn't let me see it just because I'm interested. Is there a place I might find it? I do think she might be in a pauper's grave, and she was living in the hostel - her £100 must have run out :-( It would be lovely if she did leave a will. I lose both of her sons - Ernest in Canada after he passed his farming training, and William in England after 1936 - I wonder if he changed his name, as sadly it was probably not a great time to have a German name. I will keep looking!

[*Sandra*]

FIND A GRAVE

Elizabeth Fliege

BURIAL Brookside Cemetery
Winnipeg, Greater Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
PLOT 53-0376-0

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/111455329/elizabeth-fliege

Died Winnipeg general Hospital.  00.45

https://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/DetailView.php

Maybe the cemetery would have further information.

Sandra

[dbree]

Hi,

Not sure about what the procedures were in 1930, but generally as far as I know, when they publish a notice for creditors it is prior to any assets being paid out to beneficiaries. I wouldn't think they would do that for a someone with no assets. Just because her residence remained the hostel, doesn't discount she could have very well been working. On her death record they give an occupation for her as housekeeper.

It appears you may be able to look for a will, have a read here
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Canada,_Manitoba_Probate_Records_-_FamilySearch_Historical_Records

If you want to give us more details about Ernest, dob etc. and where he was last seen, we can have
a look.

DB

[*Sandra*]

Hi dbree. There is a passenger list for Ernest Fliege - age  15- arriving 1 September 1929 - Southampton - Montreal

Going to Church Army Hostel. Winnipeg.  Mother Mrs E Fliege. 13 Coombe Road. New Malden. Surrey.

Sandra

[dbree]

Hi dbree. There is a passenger list for Ernest Fliege - age  15- arriving 1 September 1929 - Southampton - Montreal

Going to Church Army Hostel. Winnipeg.  Mother Mrs E Fliege. 13 Coombe Road. New Malden. Surrey.

Sandra

  Thanks mate.

[Turtle Dove]

Hi,
I've had a look on the Family Search website but didn't find anything new. I guess Elizabeth must have had some assets. I admit I was surprised to see she travelled with £100. She said she was a housekeeper when she came over in 1930, and maybe she was :-) In 1921 she had been a home help, living in one room.
It would be great if you could find anything on Ernest Fliege. I have his inspection card signed off on 22 December 1932, at Harding, Manitoba. The farmer he was living with was Peter Draper, and his wife was Violet. I also have Brandon as his residence. (Is that in Harding?)
He was born 16 May 1914 in New Malden, Surrey, England.
Fingers crossed. Thank you!

[jorose]

Since the newspaper record states "Administrator of Estate", and not executor of the probate, I do not think there was a will.

Harding appears to be a farming area north-west of Brandon; Brandon would be considered the nearest large town - in 1931 there were 17 thousand people living there (according to Wikipedia at least), and Harding was considered part of the district of Brandon (e.g. 1926 census for Peter and Violet).

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPLJ-15FZ

https://digitalcollections.lib.umanitoba.ca/islandora/object/uofm%3A2248558#page/158/mode/2up
 - there is some information on the Drapers here (including on the next page a picture of Pete and Violet), but no mention of Ernest.

Possibly he moved away looking for work, changed his name, etc.

[*Sandra*]

Obituary for Peter Draper (no mention of Ernest)
Publication   
20 Apr 1965 Brandon, Manitoba

Sandra