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What has happened here?
« on: Monday 28 November 22 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone offer a suggestion why soldier Hassan seems to have acquired a first name (in brackets) and that he seems to have been named after the head of his regiment.  The year is 1694.

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Re: What has happened here?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 November 22 13:11 GMT (UK) »
I see there are footnotes. Do they help? The name in brackets has been supplied from another document but won't appear in the original of this one. The same applies to [Abraham] De Livron lower down.

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Re: What has happened here?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 November 22 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Just a review of his military history I think.

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Re: What has happened here?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 November 22 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: rogerb on Monday 28 November 22 12:59 GMT (UK)
Can anyone offer a suggestion why soldier Hassan seems to have acquired a first name (in brackets) and that he seems to have been named after the head of his regiment.  The year is 1694.
I don't know, but it's interesting to see an officer with an Arabic name in the army in those times.
Perhaps he didn't use a surname, and just went by Hassan, and the [Cutts] was to help identify him?

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Re: What has happened here?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 November 22 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Mike in Cumbria on Monday 28 November 22 13:29 GMT (UK)
Quote from: rogerb on Monday 28 November 22 12:59 GMT (UK)
Can anyone offer a suggestion why soldier Hassan seems to have acquired a first name (in brackets) and that he seems to have been named after the head of his regiment.  The year is 1694.
I don't know, but it's interesting to see an officer with an Arabic name in the army in those times.
Perhaps he didn't use a surname, and just went by Hassan, and the [Cutts] was to help identify him?
Also an English surname. I can think of a few long-standing Lancashire families with the Hassan surname, and no indication of Arabic or Eastern descent.
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Re: What has happened here?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 November 22 14:20 GMT (UK) »
Yes - I agree.  The reason I was looking at this person in the first place is that I have Hassan ancestors in London that I have traced back to the late 1600s - all with Christian names.

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 November 22 14:23 GMT (UK) »
OK - I never heard of that before.

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Re: What has happened here?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 November 22 14:26 GMT (UK) »
If you want to know more about

Cutts  HASSAN he married Frances TABOR at St Mary, Aldermary 27 January 1709

His will can be downloaded for free from the National Archives.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: What has happened here?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 January 23 05:47 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: rogerb on Monday 28 November 22 14:20 GMT (UK)
Yes - I agree.  The reason I was looking at this person in the first place is that I have Hassan ancestors in London that I have traced back to the late 1600s - all with Christian names.

Hello RogerB, i’d love to connect but I am new to the website. I am learning about my Hassan relatives from London in the 1700s, and have seen you mention them on these message boards.

My ancestor is Elizabeth Hassan born 1757 in Dartford. Her parents were a George Hassan and Elizabeth Candly.
She married William Rupert Davids. Jewish family.

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