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Offline sharpie

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What was he given 12months in prison for?
« on: Saturday 26 November 22 15:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I would really appreciate help reading what my husbands ancestors crime was. I have done my best to make it more clear but still struggling.
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Arnold/Warwickshire        Schneider/Cologne
Martin/Gloucestershire    Ward/Warwickshire
Peel(Pall)                         Wilkinson/Yorkshire

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Re: What was he given 12months in prison for?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 November 22 15:32 GMT (UK) »
Looks like “Having in possession of counterfeit coin.”
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: What was he given 12months in prison for?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 November 22 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Having in possession of counterfeit coin?

you beat me to it :)
Dinsdale, Ellis, Gee, Goldsmith,Green,Hawks,Holmes,  Lacey, Longhorn, Pickersgill, Quantrill,Tuthill, Tuttle & Walker,  in E & W Yorks, Lincs, Norfolk & Suffolk. Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: What was he given 12months in prison for?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 November 22 15:37 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both, I can see that now!
I wonder what value the coin was?
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Sharp/Leicestershire       Warburton/Yorkshire/Lincolnshire/Germany
Arnold/Warwickshire        Schneider/Cologne
Martin/Gloucestershire    Ward/Warwickshire
Peel(Pall)                         Wilkinson/Yorkshire


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Re: What was he given 12months in prison for?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 November 22 16:26 GMT (UK) »
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I wonder what value the coin was?

Not necessarily a single coin. Have you looked for a newspaper report?
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Re: What was he given 12months in prison for?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 November 22 16:31 GMT (UK) »
I don't think the fourth word is 'of', as there's no letter like the 'f' in counterfeit. Instead I wonder if it's 'etc' (written &c or +c), signifying that the formal definition of the offence continues with something such as 'or tendering' but there wasn't room to write it all.

And (as ShaunJ wrote while I was typing) rather than referring to a single piece of unspecified value, 'coin' could be a generic or collective term, as in 'coin of the realm'.

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Re: What was he given 12months in prison for?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 November 22 16:37 GMT (UK) »
The offence is ...
Having in possession &c [= etc.] Counterfeit Coin

The 'etc.' is often short for ‘Having in his possession moulds for making counterfeit coin’ (or similar wording). So he could have been involved in the process of counterfeiting coinage.

Coining offences were treasonable before 1832 (you haven’t given a date).