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Ogham Alphabet
« on: Tuesday 22 November 22 04:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi There

My ancestry is Irish and I have come across the Ogham alphabet. It seems online the information is evolved and inconsistent and I not sure what to believe. I am interested in looking at an original Ogham alphabet. I realise initially the writing was marking made in stone but from that an alphabet was established. I have contacted a couple of libraries in Ireland a a University but have had no response. Is anyone familiar with the writing and are you able to hep identify what Ogham Alphabet maybe accurate please.

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Re: Ogham Alphabet
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 November 22 07:42 GMT (UK) »
Try here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogham

There are further references at the end of the article.

Ogham can also be seen on the Isle of Man, where I live.
See: https://www.babelstone.co.uk/Blog/2011/06/ogham-stones-of-isle-of-man.html
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Ogham Alphabet
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 November 22 19:30 GMT (UK) »
Edward Lhwyd's 1707 "Archaeologicae Britannica..." mentions
"There was formerly in use an occult manner of Writing called Ogham, which was of three sorts: Ogham Berch, Ogham Coll, an Ogham cnaobh"

https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/20520316.pdf
This mentions 80 forms of the alphabet




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Re: Ogham Alphabet
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 November 22 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help KGarrad & hanes teulu

KGarrad, Have you seen any of the stones yourself, they are quite fascinating. I've not seen any in person.

hanes teulu, It seems my quest maybe a little more complicated than I first thought. Maybe I need try and narrow down the earliest but certainly good to know why I have had trouble narrowing it down.

I will take a better look at the information given here

Regards

lil
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Re: Ogham Alphabet
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 November 22 05:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi.
Try this transliterator
https://ogham.co/
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Re: Ogham Alphabet
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 November 22 07:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help KGarrad & hanes teulu

KGarrad, Have you seen any of the stones yourself, they are quite fascinating. I've not seen any in person.

hanes teulu, It seems my quest maybe a little more complicated than I first thought. Maybe I need try and narrow down the earliest but certainly good to know why I have had trouble narrowing it down.

I will take a better look at the information given here

Regards

lil

Yes I have!
There is a covered set of stones at the churchyard in Maughold, and more examples at the Manx Museum.
And other examples around the island.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Ogham Alphabet
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 November 22 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Edward Lhwyd's 1707 "Archaeologicae Britannica..." mentions
"There was formerly in use an occult manner of Writing called Ogham, which was of three sorts: Ogham Berch, Ogham Coll, an Ogham cnaobh"

https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/20520316.pdf
This mentions 80 forms of the alphabet

I very much doubt that a 1707 article on this subject can be taken as in any way authoritative or accurate.
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Re: Ogham Alphabet
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 November 22 21:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi There

My ancestry is Irish and I have come across the Ogham alphabet. It seems online the information is evolved and inconsistent and I not sure what to believe. I am interested in looking at an original Ogham alphabet. I realise initially the writing was marking made in stone but from that an alphabet was established. I have contacted a couple of libraries in Ireland a a University but have had no response. Is anyone familiar with the writing and are you able to hep identify what Ogham Alphabet maybe accurate please.

Regards

lil

If you want to see original examples, what is billed as the world's largest collection is at UCC.
I don't know if the claim is accurate.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Ogham Alphabet
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 November 22 22:18 GMT (UK) »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQOTdA6ap68

there is an ogham alphabet given on this you tube clip at  2.10