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William and Florence Macrae - NSW
« on: Monday 21 November 22 07:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi

William MacRae (unsure of birth or origin) married in 1905 to Florence Ellen Stupples (born England 1883) in South Africa:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCG-5XH

I have found 1 son born in South Africa 1907 - William Donald Macrae:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NH9-LGMF

They must have emigrated to Australia not long after.

I think I have found the births of 2 daughters in New South Wales (Rhoda Margaret Macrae 1911, and Irene Florence MacRae 1913):

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/result?6

William and Florence divorced around 1922.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16004773?searchTerm=%22Macrae%20v%20macrae%22

I have found 2 possible re-marriages for Florence:

1. James G. Harriss - North Sydney 1924.

2. Henry Palmer - Glen Innes 1926.

There is an engagement notice for Irene Florence MacRae in 1938 to Kenneth Walker Dun:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/229137236?searchTerm=macrae%20%22centennial%20park%22

It says she is the younger daughter of W. MacRae of Centennial Park.

I have found a possible death of William MacRae in Sydney district 1958 (based on his father was called Donald, and he named his son William Donald).

I am looking for the death places and years for:

William MacRae (possibly 1958);

Florence Ellen MacRae (Harris / Palmer?);

Irene Florence Dun (nee MacRae);

Kenneth Walker Dun;

Rhoda Margaret MacRae.

If anybody can help I would be very grateful.

Thanks

Darin (England).
Mazzei/Mazzie - Stazzema (ITA); Cardiff; Bristol.
Bernardi - Tuscany (ITA); Cardiff; Boston (MA);
O'Keefe/O'Keeffe - Cardiff.
Svombo - Cardiff; London.
Mahoney - Newport; Cardiff.
Bugeja - Malta.
Godden - Faversham; London; Northumberland.
Harris - Deal; Gillingham.
Morris - Ramsgate; St. Lawrence; Gillingham.
Stupples - Broadstairs; Ramsgate.
Lamb - Elswick; Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Todd - Berwick; Burradon; Dudley (NBL).
Houston - Sunderland.
Gibson - East Holywell; Cramlington (NBL)

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Re: William and Florence Macrae - NSW
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 November 22 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Google newspapers Sydney Morning Herald 11 Aug 1958
MacRAE  William  9 Aug (ex Sgt Police) at his residence 37 George St Marrickville loved husband of Florence MacRae father of William, Rhoda and Irene, father-in-law Dot, Ken and Sid......77th year

.....crematorium Rookwood

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Re: William and Florence Macrae - NSW
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 November 22 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Fantastic Wivenhoe.

His son was also a Policeman.

Strange that they still mention Florence.

Thanks again.

Darin.
Mazzei/Mazzie - Stazzema (ITA); Cardiff; Bristol.
Bernardi - Tuscany (ITA); Cardiff; Boston (MA);
O'Keefe/O'Keeffe - Cardiff.
Svombo - Cardiff; London.
Mahoney - Newport; Cardiff.
Bugeja - Malta.
Godden - Faversham; London; Northumberland.
Harris - Deal; Gillingham.
Morris - Ramsgate; St. Lawrence; Gillingham.
Stupples - Broadstairs; Ramsgate.
Lamb - Elswick; Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Todd - Berwick; Burradon; Dudley (NBL).
Houston - Sunderland.
Gibson - East Holywell; Cramlington (NBL)

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Re: William and Florence Macrae - NSW
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 November 22 09:14 GMT (UK) »
I'm assuming Florence is the daughter of Richard STUPPLES and Prudence, birth registered as Florrie STUPPLES, Thanet Kent in Sep qtr 1882 (2a/910).

There is a passenger list for her going to Natal on 20 May 1903.

Unfortunately, using those parents names I can't see a death in NSW. Of course, the informant may not have known her parent's names. Will keep looking.


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Re: William and Florence Macrae - NSW
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 November 22 09:20 GMT (UK) »


Strange that they still mention Florence.


The reports on trove of the divorce only state that a decree nisi was granted. I can't see a report of a decree absolue. It is possible they didn't go ahead with the divorce.

There are a few possiblites for Florence /Ellen MACRAE deaths in NSW.

Modified to add:
Though I'd forgotten the engagement notice for Irene only mentions "W MACRAE" not "Mr and Mrs" or similar.  :-\

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Re: William and Florence Macrae - NSW
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 November 22 09:25 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that.

You are correct with her parents (Richard and Prudence).

Thanks again

Darin.
Mazzei/Mazzie - Stazzema (ITA); Cardiff; Bristol.
Bernardi - Tuscany (ITA); Cardiff; Boston (MA);
O'Keefe/O'Keeffe - Cardiff.
Svombo - Cardiff; London.
Mahoney - Newport; Cardiff.
Bugeja - Malta.
Godden - Faversham; London; Northumberland.
Harris - Deal; Gillingham.
Morris - Ramsgate; St. Lawrence; Gillingham.
Stupples - Broadstairs; Ramsgate.
Lamb - Elswick; Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Todd - Berwick; Burradon; Dudley (NBL).
Houston - Sunderland.
Gibson - East Holywell; Cramlington (NBL)

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Re: William and Florence Macrae - NSW
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 November 22 09:34 GMT (UK) »
Rhoda Margaret MACRAE married Sydney Burns BARNARY in 1952 registered at Sydney (22390/1952 )

I think it's a typo on the NSW BMD index and should be Sydney Burns BARNARD

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Re: William and Florence Macrae - NSW
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 November 22 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Sydney Burns BARNARD died in 1984, "late of Guildford" (Sydney). I can't see a death for Rhoda so it must be after Nov 1992. She was born in 1911, so I assume she is not still living. Will keep  looking for a death notice, but can't readily see one in Sydney.

Added - there is a family tree on Ancestry that has her death on the Gold Coast, Queensland, but no date or source. The same tree has a death for Irene WALKER DUN in 2010, but again, no source.

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Re: William and Florence Macrae - NSW
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 November 22 09:53 GMT (UK) »
That's fantastic

Thank you
Mazzei/Mazzie - Stazzema (ITA); Cardiff; Bristol.
Bernardi - Tuscany (ITA); Cardiff; Boston (MA);
O'Keefe/O'Keeffe - Cardiff.
Svombo - Cardiff; London.
Mahoney - Newport; Cardiff.
Bugeja - Malta.
Godden - Faversham; London; Northumberland.
Harris - Deal; Gillingham.
Morris - Ramsgate; St. Lawrence; Gillingham.
Stupples - Broadstairs; Ramsgate.
Lamb - Elswick; Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Todd - Berwick; Burradon; Dudley (NBL).
Houston - Sunderland.
Gibson - East Holywell; Cramlington (NBL)