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Re: Melted metal object - original use?
« Reply #36 on: Friday 25 November 22 19:56 GMT (UK) »
It is the presence of acid that causes the green, without it the oxide film would be brown.

Melting temp for iron and steel varies but starts just above 2,000f. Copper is slightly below that and bronze and brass are lower, although above 1650f.   Gold, silver and aluminium are lower [in that order]

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Re: Melted metal object - original use?
« Reply #37 on: Friday 25 November 22 20:22 GMT (UK) »
A door knocker perhaps?
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Re: Melted metal object - original use?
« Reply #38 on: Friday 25 November 22 21:35 GMT (UK) »
It looks like there may be a couple of spoons in the object. It reminds me of something I saw once, did any family members visit Japan after/during WW2

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Re: Melted metal object - original use?
« Reply #39 on: Friday 25 November 22 21:39 GMT (UK) »
you mentioned that a relitive was a motorman was this on the cable cars  (tramcars ) of san francisco im mentioning this because on the last day of tramcars in glasgow lots of people put objects coins ect on the tram rails the tram passed over them flattening them could this have happened to the object you have

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Re: Melted metal object - original use?
« Reply #40 on: Friday 25 November 22 21:47 GMT (UK) »
It is the presence of acid that causes the green, without it the oxide film would be brown.

Melting temp for iron and steel varies but starts just above 2,000f. Copper is slightly below that and bronze and brass are lower, although above 16650f.   Gold, silver and aluminium are lower [in that order]

Got it.  Thank you for the additional details. My saucepan bottoms actually have quite a bit more brown when they aren’t polished but do occasionally have a bit of green.  I will keep the melting points in mind; they may come in handy.  Thank you again, youngtug!
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Melted metal object - original use?
« Reply #41 on: Friday 25 November 22 22:00 GMT (UK) »
A door knocker perhaps?

I know there are several suggestions for cutlery but (a special) door knocker is something that I could envision the family having and wanting to keep.  It is also just about the right weight for a door knocker.

Thank you for your idea, Footo!
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Re: Melted metal object - original use?
« Reply #42 on: Friday 25 November 22 22:09 GMT (UK) »
It looks like there may be a couple of spoons in the object. It reminds me of something I saw once, did any family members visit Japan after/during WW2

I don’t believe anyone left California. There were only a few family members who would have had the object as a couple and their two children settled in California c1880.  I don’t believe they knew anyone who travelled.

Thank you for continuing to offer suggestions, youngtug.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Melted metal object - original use?
« Reply #43 on: Friday 25 November 22 22:27 GMT (UK) »
you mentioned that a relitive was a motorman was this on the cable cars  (tramcars ) of san francisco im mentioning this because on the last day of tramcars in glasgow lots of people put objects coins ect on the tram rails the tram passed over them flattening them could this have happened to the object you have

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What an interesting story, harrywrag!  I lived in San Francisco when the cable cars were shut down for two years.  I remember a few of my workmates going outside and having photos taken near a cable car.  I like your story more, though.  What a clever thing to do to mark the occasion.

Perhaps a family member found the object in the rails when he went back to work?  Thank you for your idea, harrywrag.

PS We have a photo of the son-in-law while he was at work.  I believe he was posing in front of a streetcar (which ran on rails). I will search for the photo tomorrow as I’m curious what he operated.

All of the ideas have been excellent and very much appreciated.
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Re: Melted metal object - original use?
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 26 November 22 07:56 GMT (UK) »
I like the suggestion of a door knocker. Maybe it could also be the house number?

(I mentioned this thread to my OH who suggested it might be a neuralyzer.  :P )