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descendants of crowther family who in 1901 census lived in Oldham
« on: Tuesday 15 November 22 12:01 GMT (UK) »
I have been looking for information about Sophia Crowther for about 10 years. tried roots chat about 6 years ago but got nowhere. I have now tried following through her siblings. Florence Crowther led to me Kathleen Barrett (who was born Clara Crowther). This led me to Nellie Devine (nee Crowther) who was the daughter of Lester Crowther. Nellie had a daughter Brenda Devine who had two marriages in the 1970's. Firstly not sure if i have the correct Brenda.   Last believed to live in St Helens area. Not sure if i am following the correct family. . would like to make contact to establish whether i am following the correct line or not. would appreciate some help

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Re: descendants of crowther family who in 1901 census lived in Oldham
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 12:39 GMT (UK) »
1911 census
Broughton, Lancashire

60 Charlotte St, Hightown

Morris Gross, 25, born Austria
Sophia Gross, 25, Saddleworth
Clara Crowther (sister), 18, Oldham
plus a boarder

...and there is a matching marriage record for Q4 1908. However I cannot find either Morris or Sophia in the 1921 census.
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Re: descendants of crowther family who in 1901 census lived in Oldham
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Rootschat has a strict no living persons policy & your post suggests some of the people you mention could still be alive so you need to remove their names from your post to protect their privacy
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Re: descendants of crowther family who in 1901 census lived in Oldham
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 12:58 GMT (UK) »
re 1908 marriage

www.lancashirebmd.org.uk shows him as Morris Gross & also Morris Simelman

An Annetta Gross Simelman b 1920 died 1996 Hertfordshire.  Birth shows mmn Entin

Marriage 1919 Leeds - Rachel Entin to Morris Gross/Morris Simelman
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Re: descendants of crowther family who in 1901 census lived in Oldham
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Son Sam Simelman born Prestwich March qtr 1910 mmn Crowther died June qtr 1911
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Re: descendants of crowther family who in 1901 census lived in Oldham
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 13:09 GMT (UK) »
thanks for replies. sophia disappears after 1911 census. morris remarries 1918 stating he is a widower,. cant find death records for sophia

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Re: descendants of crowther family who in 1901 census lived in Oldham
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Morris remarries 1919 - not 1918

As you appear to already know about the remarriage & the 2 surnames plus he was a widower when he remarried - it would have been helpful to have included it in your post as it would appear Sophia died between 1911 & 1919.   

Can you please edit your post to remove the names of the living persons

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Re: descendants of crowther family who in 1901 census lived in Oldham
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 13:18 GMT (UK) »
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can you delete post please. apologies for breaching rules but was getting desperate after 10 years researching

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Re: descendants of crowther family who in 1901 census lived in Oldham
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 13:23 GMT (UK) »
Do you want to remove your post or just amend it to remove the names of living persons?

If just to remove the names - click on the MODIFY icon which will give you access to delete the names

If you want to remove it - no member can delete or amend another persons post.  If you click on the "report to moderator" button you can ask the moderator to remove it for you
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