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Re: Have I added two and two and made five?
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 05 November 22 19:29 GMT (UK) »
There is a rather sketchy tree on Ancestry which includes:

Minnie Mitchell born in Belfast, Antrim, 1890 daughter of John

married to George Cox - no further details of George or the marriage.

then having two children with a James Arthur Read (born London 1880 died 1941):
James Read - no dates
Irene Read born 1926 died 2009.
There doesn't seem to be a marriage.

Minnie died in 1932 in Edmonton - registered as Minnie Cox aged 42.



(There is no requirement for either parent to be present at a baptism.)


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Re: Have I added two and two and made five?
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 05 November 22 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Galium. I'll treat this with my usual skepticism about Ancestry trees, and since Minnie isn't my relative anyway  I'll take it no further.

Barbara Florence Cox born 1927 Luton MMN Gilbey seems to have died 2017 unmarried, also in Luton - so she's probably not George and Elizabeth's daughter - though whose marriage she's from, I cannot tell.
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Re: Have I added two and two and made five?
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 05 November 22 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Tidying up - George Thomas Cox seems to have died 1953, but Elizabeth Ellen Cox b 1899 died 1992 with the same birth date as given on the 1939 register. Daphne Georgina Moore 1919 was even more long lived, dying in 2015.
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Re: Have I added two and two and made five?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 06 November 22 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Galium. I'll treat this with my usual skepticism about Ancestry trees...

Agree that it is wise not to take online family trees at face value, but in the case of the one I mentioned, the tree owner is a grandchild of Minnie Mitchell. 

I am guessing, from the lack of dates given for George Cox, and the more precise information about where Minnie was born and died, that they are working from their own oral family history, and might possibly know more about the story of Minnie's marriage, since they are aware that she did marry, and of the name of her husband. (They have been logged in recently).
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Re: Have I added two and two and made five?
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 09 June 24 23:00 BST (UK) »
Hi, I am the granddaughter of Minnie Mitchell who was married to George Thomas Cox in Romford on 16th October,  1916. Minnie died when my Mum Irene Read was 6 years old. Minnie was living with my Grandad James Read at 12 Gilpin Grove, Edmonton.she died in 1932 of tuberculosis.  On her death certificate it says she was the wife of George Cox, taxi cab driver. I would love to find out more about my grandmother. My mother was too ashamed to tell me she was illegitimate and so I had been searching for a Minnie Cox (maiden name) which didn't help matters. Any info greatly appreciated. My ultimate goal would be to find a photo of Minnie. I live in hope. Thanks to all contributors thus far. Interesting info re George Cox

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Re: Have I added two and two and made five?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 15 July 24 20:40 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat LinndiLoo. I'm sorry I've only just seen your post, I must have missed the usual update email from Rootschat.

I'm sorry I have no more information on Minnie. I'm glad you found George Thomas Cox interesting but I gather he is not yor ancestor. Chris
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Re: Have I added two and two and made five?
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 16 July 24 06:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris, no Minnie is a real mystery, but I am fairly certain she was married to this George Cox for a while and then ended up with James Read, my grandfather.  I never knew either of them as they died while my mum was still a child. Will keep trying,  though. Thanks for msg.

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Re: Have I added two and two and made five?
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 16 July 24 08:59 BST (UK) »
Hi, I am the granddaughter of Minnie Mitchell who was married to George Thomas Cox in Romford on 16th October,  1916. Minnie died when my Mum Irene Read was 6 years old. Minnie was living with my Grandad James Read at 12 Gilpin Grove, Edmonton.she died in 1932 of tuberculosis.  On her death certificate it says she was the wife of George Cox, taxi cab driver. I would love to find out more about my grandmother. My mother was too ashamed to tell me she was illegitimate and so I had been searching for a Minnie Cox (maiden name) which didn't help matters. Any info greatly appreciated. My ultimate goal would be to find a photo of Minnie. I live in hope. Thanks to all contributors thus far. Interesting info re George Cox

An 1890 Belfast birth for consideration:

Wilhelmina (indexed incorrectly as Withelmina) Isabella Mitchell daughter of a James John Mitchell

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c51d0610381144



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Re: Have I added two and two and made five?
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 16 July 24 09:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you for this.
Lynn