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Re: Robert Murray
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 03 November 22 17:49 GMT (UK) »
There is a Robert Murray, mariner, born Liverpool about 1814/15, who sailed on the Manchester of Whitehaven and then the Cherub, both in 1836. He seems to have deserted the Cherub at Newfoundland.

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Re: Robert Murray
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 03 November 22 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Please see reply 6 - where did you get the info from re Liverpool birth for David Charles Murray?
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Re: Robert Murray
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 03 November 22 18:37 GMT (UK) »
I apologise as it was David's son that was born in Toxteth Park and not him
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Re: Robert Murray
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 November 22 18:38 GMT (UK) »
That sighting you had of Robert sounds very interesting.  Great possibilities.
Just keeping my fingers crossed it could be the correct Robert
many thanks
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Re: Robert Murray
« Reply #13 on: Friday 04 November 22 14:30 GMT (UK) »
My late husband's cousin informed that Robert Murray was born in Cork Ireland.  My daughter has got the results of her DNA test and there is no connection to Ireland but a strong one to Scotland.
I wouldn't rely on DNA to distinugish between Scottish and Irish ancestry.

First, it's possible (though maybe unlikely) that the critical bit of DNA from one side of a family didn't get passed down to all that person's descendants.

Second, Scots and Irish are both Celtic peoples connected by geography and culture as well as by blood, and I would be a bit sceptical of any DNA analyses that claimed to be able to distinguish them with certainty from one another.

Third, even if it had been possible to tell the difference, there were so many people in Ulster of Scots descent after the Plantation that the bloodlines must have got mixed again.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Robert Murray
« Reply #14 on: Friday 04 November 22 15:44 GMT (UK) »
That makes complete sense and will send your message on to my daughter. 
So looks like I will not be able to find Robert as I gather that the Irish records were
all destroyed by fire in 1922.
Thank you and everyone else who tried to find him for all the hard work they have
put into this request
Many thanks
supernan
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Re: Robert Murray
« Reply #15 on: Friday 04 November 22 15:56 GMT (UK) »
Not all Irish records were destroyed but with so little information to go on it will be very difficult to be sure of finding the right Robert Murray.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Robert Murray
« Reply #16 on: Friday 04 November 22 16:00 GMT (UK) »
I agree with you and will just have to draw a line under poor Robert
Again, many thanks
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Nichols Buckinghamshire
Rowe Devon
Daw/Dawe Devon and Cornwall
Byrne London
Murray Ireland
Sawle Cornwall
Spry Cornwall
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