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Help with info on my great-grandfather
« on: Wednesday 02 November 22 19:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,

I have become aware from a family member and an old newspaper clipping I found in some old family photos that my great-grandfather served in the first world war. The newspaper clipping states he served with the South Wales Borderers and survived the battle of the Somme.

I have been searching online for any records but sadly can't find any. I'm aware most service records were lost during the second world war but is it unusual that I can't even locate a medal index card for him?

His name is Wilfred Baker, born 7 September 1894 from Cwmbran - South Wales.

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Re: Help with info on my great-grandfather
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 November 22 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Do you have his service number?
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Re: Help with info on my great-grandfather
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 November 22 23:33 GMT (UK) »
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D1132878

Medal card of Baker, Wilfred
Corps   Regiment No   Rank
Border Regiment   202409   Private

Might be worth paying a small fee to download this record from Nat Archives Uk although I suspect his medals would be those awarded to all soldiers.
HUME: Fermanagh, Donegal,Sligo,Australia
PASFIELD: Essex, London
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Re: Help with info on my great-grandfather
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 November 22 00:29 GMT (UK) »
The MRI for that Service number only shows he was awarded the British Medal - not the Victory Medal as well & no Theatre of War is shown.  Given the info in the opening post I wonder if this was the same Wilfred Baker. 

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Re: Help with info on my great-grandfather
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 November 22 00:37 GMT (UK) »
https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/units/322/south-wales-borderers

There were a number of battalions in the SW Borderers & looking at the first 8 I can't see anything obvious about the Somme but you may want to read each one as it could help identify which battalion served in the Battle of the Somme

EDIT

A quick Google suggests the 38th

https://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armyunits/britishinfantry/swb.htm
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Re: Help with info on my great-grandfather
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 November 22 07:18 GMT (UK) »
202409 can also be discounted as he was from Manchester area and died at sea 10 1 1917.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2894235/wilfred-baker/





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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 November 22 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for the inputs. I think one of my best chances now is to possibly book an appointment at my local archives and check the AVL's to see if I can possibly get any hits that way. It has to be worth a go...

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 November 22 23:03 GMT (UK) »
Your grandfather had no other christian names.  Looking through the MRI for Wilfred  Baker entries and checking if any showed a Theatre of War entry only turns up 2 entries. 

Royal Engineers - driver - 2 possible service numbers - 96 & 486227
Theatre of War entered 19.1.1915 - no country shown

RAMC - private - service number 1788 - ToW - 27.2.1915 no country shown but shows (1)
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 November 22 07:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for the inputs. I think one of my best chances now is to possibly book an appointment at my local archives and check the AVL's to see if I can possibly get any hits that way. It has to be worth a go...

I can assist with this. What address[es] do you have? Give the parish if you know it.