Help with DNA match (MCDOWELL's Ballymartin)

[brigidmac]

Sister Evelyn married in Portsmouth too .

Does anything so far rule out that they are actually thesame Sarah who lied about her birth year

Are your strongest level DNA matches to the DAVEY .
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[unilove18]

Nothing so far that i can see rules it out, other than the dna should say 1st cousin match if it was 100%

My strongest dna match is to the daughter of evelyn. But apparently she only went to portsmouth for the day to marry as her husband was in the army. She returned home the next day

[aghadowey]

It's looking more and more like 'your' Sarah & the 'other' Sarah were the same person and that the 'other' shaved 10 years off her age when marrying (not that uncommon especially when bride a bit older than husband).
Since any child of the 'other' Sarah would be half sibling of your father, if the above is correctly, then the DNA results will not be as close as if they had the same father.

[brigidmac]

totally agree
.that was my initial theory especially as you match more than one Davey descendant
(I wasnt sure if cyrils age was 21 or 24 from marriage record sent in email)but her father was listed as deceased + builder constructor which fits.

one suggestion is to add Cyril Davey as spouse but dont give death date so he will remain private
thru lines should show up and you can see if the connections tally

you can build your tree to include William mcDowells parents and siblings to see other more distant matches

as there are other adoptees on this line it will help their descendants true lineage .

even Sarahs younger children named as McDowell might have different father as that would be her surname once widowed too .

good luck

[unilove18]

See i think its the same sarah to, however the dna is throwing me. I understand what you are saying about the less percentage due to being half. But my top dna match is my sarahs niece. Shes evelyns daughter. And her dna matches exactly what it should be. 1st cousin 1 x removed. Surely to god, my dads half Niece should be matching to me higher than a 2nd cousin even if only half. I just dont get it.

But because i descend from sarah and then william above that. There cant be 2 brother williams having 2 sister sarahs in the same tree. So im back believing they are the same person. Im going round and round

[brigidmac]

Yes Evelyns daughter is your dads half cousin so your half cousin 1R
so you only share thru your great grandparents same as 2nd cousins do

ive just looked at various trees on ancestry ..some great photo ane what a family resemblance between all the Mc Dowell men

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how strong + how distant are your davey matches

[unilove18]

Ive been searching for my grandmother for most of my adult life i actually cant take it in that this other sarah is more than likely her! This is crazy! So are we def thinking this is her, after seeing the percentages of them 2 matches?? Are we sure haha?

Yes the mcdowells that i have all seen a pic of, are all very very similar.

I do have simones 2 sons on there as a dna match as well ill send them

1st son.....Shared DNA: 59 cM across 3 segments
Unweighted shared DNA: 61 cM
Longest segment: 30 cM

How do we estimate DNA relationships?
Possible DNA relationships

This table shows the percentage of the time people sharing 59 cM have the following relationships:

Percent   Relationship
37%   
3rd cousin
2nd cousin 2x removed
Half 2nd cousin 1x removed
Half 1st cousin 3x removed


2nd son.....hared DNA: 51 cM across 5 segments
Unweighted shared DNA: 74 cM
Longest segment: 25 cM

How do we estimate DNA relationships?
Possible DNA relationships

This table shows the percentage of the time people sharing 51 cM have the following relationships:

Percent   Relationship
37%   
3rd cousin
2nd cousin 2x removed
Half 2nd cousin 1x removed
Half 1st cousin 3x removed

[brigidmac]

Sorry I don't know how Simone + her son  connect on paper as living people you.ll need to put it in private message or email .

You're getting closer to finding her !.

[Ruskie]

Unilove18,

I’m not sure if this has already been suggested, but have you uploaded your raw data to any other sites eg My Heritage, FTDNA, Living DNA, Gedmatch ….. ?

I recommend that you pay any fees to unlock the additional features.

Other sites might throw up different matches. Not everyone tests with Ancestry.

Good luck with the search.