When & Where did John Smith marry a Mary?

[timmis1]

Richard Smith born 1750? +/- 5 buried 1820 Bidston (Confirmed by the Cheshire Parish Project Register Database (CPPRD)) married to Ann/Nancy Linacre 1775 Bidston (Confirmed by the (CPPRD) one witness was a John Smith (confirmed by CPPRD) possibly his father.
 One of Richard`s daughters Betty was baptized 1779 (confirmed by CPRD)  and the names of Richard`s parents were given as John & Mary as additional information, confirmation that his father was John.
However I cannot find a suitable marriage for a John Smith & Mary around a suitable time probably a few years +/- 1750 however I have not been able to find the baptism of Richard Smith or his siblings either.
I am presuming he would have not have  had a trade (he signs the marriage register for his son Richard with a X) however his grand son William Smith born 1783 (confirmed by CPPRD) lists himself as a farmer in the 1841 census, so perhaps John Smith was an agricultural labourer?
There are some entries on family history trees on Ancestry for marriages of John Smith to a Mary, one for instance to a Mary Moss, one tree even has John marrying her twice in his lifetime.
However there is no supporting documentation to prove any of them.
Does anyone have any ideas as to where I could find a suitable marriage for a John Smith & a Mary?

[ColC]

If the family followed the English naming pattern (Not all did), I would expect Richards father to be William and Nancy’s Henry, however has they had more than one John, that might prove to be the exception to the rule. I realise you may have most of below but it might help others?

Richard Smith   Marriage 19 September 1775 Bidstone, CheshireSpouse: Nancy Linacer

Baptisms Bidstone.

Mother NANCY: William 1783, Henry 1885, Nancy 1789, John 1788 & 1791,

Mother ANN: Mary 1776, Peggy 1777, Betty 1779, Kitty 1781.

This marriage 1792, so I have ignored later baptisms at Bidstone
Richard Smith   Marriage Notice 10 September 1792 Cheshire Spouse Ann Noble

Richd. Smith   Burial 18 October 1820 Bidstone, Cheshire Birth 1755  (No age)

Nancy Linacre buried 16 October 1842 age 88

1841 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7M1-C61

1841 – Nancy & John?  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7M1-4C7

Colin

[garden genie]

Unfortunately the Cheshire Parish Register Database does not cover the whole of Cheshire. (although it is free, which is good!) FindMyPast is usually better than Ancestry for Cheshire Records - starting by looking for Richard Smith baptised within 5 years of 1750 has 25 results, reducing to 10 if you specify father as John. (Some parishes may not record the mother's name) From the position of Bidston I would normally suggest you check Lancashire as well, but it may be a bit early for frequent traffic across the Mersey.

[ColC]

No births for a Richard Smith, father William or Henry in Cheshire in the period but a John Smith had the following children baptised Bebington 4 miles from Bidston, sadly no mother noted.

Catherine Smith 29 Nov 1740 Ann 22 Jan 1743 Mary 30 Jul 1746 & 25 Jul 1751, John 15 Jul 1753 & Richard 19 June 1755. 

Needless to say there are a number of Marriages in the County, including several of them to a Mary.
From the children’s names a fair assumption is that John first married Catherine, below and given the gap 1846-1851 he married Mary below?

John Smith
Marriage Date:   12 Feb 1739
Marriage Place:   Bebington, Cheshire
Spouse:   Catherine Inglefield

John Smith
Spouse   Mary Moss
Marriage   29 Oct 1750 Bebington, Cheshire

Colin

[ColC]

Catherine Smith
Burial 27 September 1747
Bebington, Cheshire
Spouse John Smith

Colin

[timmis1]

Hi Colin

Thanks for the information that`s  great, I did have some of it.
With respect to the marriages are these from find my past?

Sue

[ColC]

Hi Colin

Thanks for the information that`s  great, I did have some of it.
With respect to the marriages are these from find my past?

Sue

The marriages were on family search and the baptisms on Ancestry.

It would be best to check on FindMyPast as suggested in an earlier post.

Regards Colin

[timmis1]

Hi Colin

Sorry I do not have find my past.
With respect to ancestry would the baptisms be from the Bishop Transcripts?

Sue

[ColC]

The baptisms on Ancestry are from Cheshire, England, Select Bishop's Transcripts, 1576-1933

A Samuel Smith & Peter Smith had children baptised Bebington in the same period.

The baptisms of John and Samuels children are also on Family Search.

I came across these earlier today below?

Catherine Inglefield   Christening 2 December 1716 Bebington, Cheshire. Parents William Inglefield

This Mary would only be about 16, unless she was born a little earlier, if she was the one married to John

Mary Moss   Christening 25 August 1734 Frodsham, Cheshire   Parents Richard Moss

Colin