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Re: Help deciphering a name
« Reply #63 on: Tuesday 29 November 22 07:32 GMT (UK) »
Yes indeed. Ive just ordered it.

I had not seen Ednas passport before. Fascinating.

Thank you
McGaveston - Dublin-Ireland, France, New Zealand
White - Shalden, Alton, Chawton-Hampshire
O'Donnell - New Zealand, Co Down-Northern Ireland, USA
Franklin/Fraenkel - New Zealand, Prussia
Day - Echuca, Tongala, London, Fairford-Gloucestershire
Clark/McGraw - New Zealand, Ireland, England
McMahon -Ipswich-QLD, Kiladysart-Co Clare
Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick

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Re: Help deciphering a name
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 01 December 22 08:58 GMT (UK) »
Howard Reynolds Adcock
Born 24 Nov 1917 at 69 Mile Road, Avonside, Christchurch
Father George Henry Adcock. Occupation holderup NZ Rifles. Married 7 Oct 1911 in Christchurch.
One male age 5 and one female age 4 born previously.
Mother Adelaide Ellen Adcock nee Howard age 25 years born Adelaide, South Australia
Informant was Maud Adcock. Authorised by mother. Address 69 Mile road.
Registered 21 January 1918
Change of name to Eric Stratton in 1976.

So Eric used his name without it being official.

New theory is that perhaps of of Adelaide sisters was the mother. Why? Erics son is a DNA match to the Howards/Adcock line but the DNA match for 1st cousin twice removed is 47 to 72cM. There is a 2% chance that is accurate according to the Shared cM calculator. There are no Adcock matches from Georges parents or grandparents but there are from Adelaides grandparents.
McGaveston - Dublin-Ireland, France, New Zealand
White - Shalden, Alton, Chawton-Hampshire
O'Donnell - New Zealand, Co Down-Northern Ireland, USA
Franklin/Fraenkel - New Zealand, Prussia
Day - Echuca, Tongala, London, Fairford-Gloucestershire
Clark/McGraw - New Zealand, Ireland, England
McMahon -Ipswich-QLD, Kiladysart-Co Clare
Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick

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Re: Help deciphering a name
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 01 December 22 19:20 GMT (UK) »

.... His father knew a New Zealand politician Mabel Howard. His father had an argument with Mabel and she never came to the house again.


Adelaide only had two sisters didn't she, Mabel and Elsie.

Mabel we had discussed earlier (guessing she is the Mabel Howard you mentioned at the begining, as showing above) www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/79848457/flashback-mabel-howard-becomes-first-nz-woman-cabinet-minister She never married.

What do you know about Elsie? Born 1897, when did she marry?

Added: Did Elsie marry Thomas Victor Lamont I wonder in 1923. www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lamont-659

So, either sister would have been around to perhaps be 'mother'.

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« Reply #66 on: Thursday 01 December 22 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Victor Lamont (1897-1972)
born in Rakaia, Canterbury to Thomas Laurence Lamont & Martha Jane Morgan
married Elsie Howard in 1923

Press, 25 Oct 1923 - WOMEN'S CORNER
Miss M. Howard was hostess at a linen shower evening last Saturday given in honour of her sister Miss Elsie Howard, whose marriage to Mr T. Lamont takes place next week. Some beautiful presents of linen were received and an enjoyable evening was spent in games and dancing. Those present included Mr and Mrs Leader, Misses M. and E. Howard, M. Carter, W. Adcock, E. Lawrence, E. Lighfoot, M. Halliday, G. Welsh, G. Thompson and I. Sutherland. Messrs T. Lamont, E. Nuttall, A. Midgeley, J. Birss, W. and D. Taylor, C. Gordon, W. Lester, E. Brightling and F. Regerson

www.familytreecircles.com/u/ngairedith/?sort=alpha&amp%3Bnext=1911&next=2151

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« Reply #67 on: Thursday 01 December 22 21:19 GMT (UK) »
There is something not right with Elsie Elizabeth's memorial  :-\

This is the image for her, next to her sister www.flickr.com/photos/porkynz/3949460797 at the foot of her father's memorial. This shows her death date as 1973, aged 93. However, she was born in late 1897.

Find a Grave gives year as 1993 www.findagrave.com/memorial/156707806/elsie-elizabeth-lamont which fits with the death index entry for her (although her birth year is wrong here, so she would have been 96 at death really?):

1993/43301   Lamont    Elsie Elizabeth    29 December 1900

Main memorial for their father, Edwin John "Ted" www.flickr.com/photos/porkynz/3949460587/in/photostream/

Again, I add these here in case you haven't come across them before.

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« Reply #68 on: Thursday 01 December 22 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Name   Elsie Elizabeth Howard
Birth Date   29 Dec 1897
Birth Place   Adelaide
Registration Place   Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Father   Edwin John Howard
Mother   Harriet Goring
Page number   205
Volume Number   615

So clearly lied about her age back then? She married at age 26 which was up there for the time. She dies age 95 but I guess if you  modify the facts it makes it hard for others to track it.
McGaveston - Dublin-Ireland, France, New Zealand
White - Shalden, Alton, Chawton-Hampshire
O'Donnell - New Zealand, Co Down-Northern Ireland, USA
Franklin/Fraenkel - New Zealand, Prussia
Day - Echuca, Tongala, London, Fairford-Gloucestershire
Clark/McGraw - New Zealand, Ireland, England
McMahon -Ipswich-QLD, Kiladysart-Co Clare
Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick