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Offline Revolution

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Help deciphering a name
« on: Sunday 23 October 22 14:10 BST (UK) »
Hi!

Im helping my cousin find his fathers family. My cousin has DNA tested on ancestry and has good 400cM matches to the descendants of Francis (Frank) Rivier.

Its an odd surname in New Zealand name and I think its a made up one. His life from 1914 onwards is fairly well documented but I cant find a trace of him in England. IN his WWI war record in New Zealand he names a Eugene Cobri/Covri as an uncle who lived in England

Attached is the reference. Can anyone read the surname as I cant find anyone named with the variants I have typed above?

Thanks in advance!
McGaveston - Dublin-Ireland, France, New Zealand
White - Shalden, Alton, Chawton-Hampshire
O'Donnell - New Zealand, Co Down-Northern Ireland, USA
Franklin/Fraenkel - New Zealand, Prussia
Day - Echuca, Tongala, London, Fairford-Gloucestershire
Clark/McGraw - New Zealand, Ireland, England
McMahon -Ipswich-QLD, Kiladysart-Co Clare
Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick

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Re: Help deciphering a name
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 October 22 14:39 BST (UK) »
Hi....

 I have found a Eugene CORRI who is a stockbroker in 1911 ......possible misspelling on the paper.

  Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Help deciphering a name
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 October 22 14:57 BST (UK) »

1862 - 1933


Surprise at funeral for Eugene Corri

The Daily Telegraph London, Greater London, England
28 Dec 1933, Thu   Page 5

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/111841898/the-daily-telegraph/

1911 census Prittlewell, Southend On Sea, Essex (given by tazzie above)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWN3-Z18

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 October 22 16:05 BST (UK) »
He was brought up in charges of firstly manslaughter then murder due to the death of a boxer whilst Eugene was the Time Keeper in 1901. Fighter was Billy Smith.
 Then another case in 1898 for the manslaughter of Thomas Turner.

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Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Help deciphering a name
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 October 22 16:16 BST (UK) »
From what Tazzie has found, and Sandra's FS link, this is a family tree showing on FS www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GWFL-ST7

So, to fit with the uncle ref, Eugene looks to have had at least 5 sisters. So which one married a Rivier man?

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 October 22 16:34 BST (UK) »
Can't see any possible marriage in England to fit these names www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Looking at online trees (which as always need verification  ::)), Eugune's sisters do not look to have married a Rivier man.

Just from trees:

Eleanor b. 1846 married Douglas Gade
Bessie b. 1854 married Robert Jarvis
Mary b. 1857 married Charles Lord
Josephine b. 1858 married Sam Bright
Alice b. 1860 married Charles Ironmonger

A lot of family researchers for them all online.

What was Frank Rivier's birth year? Added: Just seen 25-02-1892 on his form which is his birth? Any clues as to where he was born?

Monica

PS: Hope you find the connection. The Corri family look to be an interesting family to research!

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 October 22 17:11 BST (UK) »
The Uncle ref for Eugene could also some from a sister to partner/wife to Eugene Corri. He seemed to have been linked with a Madeline Sidney Hussey and Edna A Warendorph.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 October 22 17:30 BST (UK) »
Repeat of some of above which have been posted while I was searching.

In 1901 Eugene CORRI was tried for the manslaughter of Murray LIVINGSTONE aka Billy SMITH at the Old Bailey - verdict - No Agreement. Bill SMITH of Philadelphia died of injuries in a boxing fight.

1898 there was some case involving a Thomas TURNER.

London Gazette 1915 Firm of Stockbrokers E. O. LLOYD, Harold HARDY, Eugene CORRI & Francis Edward HALSEY was dissolved.

London Gazette 1921 Bankruptcy order for CORRI, Eugene a Member of the National Sporting Club, Covent Garden, London

Marriage 16 Apr 1891 Eugene Alfred CORRI age 28 father Patriceus Constantine CORRI & Madeline Sidney HUSSEY age 22 father Henry Nesbitt HUSSEY. Place Hammersmith.

Birth q3 1862 Eugene Alfred CORRI mmn WOULDS Shoreditch 1c 184.
Birth q3 1873 Madeline Sidney HUSSEY 2a 257 Kingston.
Baptism at Wimbledon 26 Oct 1873 Madeline Sidney HUSSEY daur of Henry James Nesbitt HUSSEY, occupation Clerk, mother Augustus Bloomfield HUSSEY

Marriage q4 1872 Lambeth 1d 554 - Henry James N HUSSEY & Augusta Bloomfield SIDNEY

marriage q2 1844 Pat~~ Constantine CORRI & ? Kings Norton 18 505

1891 census, Rowan Road Hammersmith Eugene and Madeline CORRI. Stock Broker Agent

1871 census has Patricuis C CORRI age 49 born Ireland and his wife is Mary j age 49 Born Somerset. Child Eugene A is age 8.
1861 census has Pat’s birth in Dublin.

So none of that explains why Frank RIVIES was a nephew of Eugene Alfred CORRI but Eugene had about ten brothers and sisters.

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 October 22 18:27 BST (UK) »
Has your cousin checked what is written on Frank's marriage registration?

1916/1263 - Beatrice Milne and Francis Rivier
https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search

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