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Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 23 October 22 19:44 BST (UK) »
Again a quote from opening post

"Elizabeth Hilton was born in 1872 in Ince,

Is it possible she married James Johnson 3.2. 1894 Wigan. Father recorded as John Hilton -occ Collier.

1901.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GG-7LZ

1911 ref 23029  458  14

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The Elizabeth Wright you found in 1901/11 was born in Hindley

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Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« Reply #10 on: Monday 24 October 22 00:55 BST (UK) »
CaroleW, Thank you for that information. I didn't think to check the census for her marital status.

trish1120, I am a complete novice when it comes to family history. When you say there are three Wright children reg Wigan with mmn as Hilton can you tell me which register you mean.

amondg, I would love to know how you found out that there was another child, Emily b1901 d1902.
Also is there any reason why the other three childrens ages are all 1 year different from the census.?

johnhood, I clicked your link for familysearch but it is asking me to log in. I will have to see about creating an account so I can follow your link. Also I do not have the birth certificate of Elizabeth Hilton, I only have the census. I do have a copy of a marriage certificate which I believe is from the St Peter register of marriages book, page 121. It gives her address as 94, Platt Lane and her age as 24 years.
It is perfectly possible I have the wrong marriage for Elizabeth, I will have to try and follow up on the marriage you have suggested , to James Johnson.  As for Elizabeths place of birth, on the 1871 census for Ince her parents lived at 143 Petticoat Lane Ince and on the 1881 census they lived at 268 Petticoat Lane Ince. I have just looked at the 1901 and 1911 census's again and you are quite right, that Elizabeth is shown as being born in Hindley. Looks like it might be back to the drawing board. Thank you very much for all that information.

And thank you very much to everyone else for their help.
Maybe some kind person will be able to definately confirm if I have or have not, got the correct marriage. :)

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Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« Reply #11 on: Monday 24 October 22 03:36 BST (UK) »
Children found using the GRO index.

There are a number of children with surname Wright and mother Hilton born in Wigan.

I used the census entries to find known children listed and then looked for baptisms.

That's how I found Emily.

St. Peter's Hindley
Hannah born 1 August 1899 bap. 14 September - address Lord's Street father overlooker
Emily as above             GRO Index for her death
James born 2 October 1905 bap. 26 October   --Atherton Road
Nellie born 1 July 1908 bap. 30 August   -Atherton Road

The age difference depended if the child had a birthday before or after the census was taken.
 

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Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« Reply #12 on: Monday 24 October 22 03:38 BST (UK) »
To know if you have the correct marriage go back to your last known factual evidence.

You say you are looking for your grandfather's sister.

Who is he and what have you found so far.

When and where did he die. Who was his father on his marriage certificate. How old was he when he died.


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Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« Reply #13 on: Monday 24 October 22 07:51 BST (UK) »

Lancashire OPC     https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Marriage: 29 Feb 1896 St Peter, Hindley, Lancashire, England
William James WRIGHT   24y, Overlooker in Mill, Bachelor, 5 Albert Street
Father: William WRIGHT dec   collier

Elizabeth HILTON - 24, Spinster, 94 Platt Lane
Father: John HILTON   collier   
Witness: Robert Israel DARBYSHIRE    Annie HILTON

Ancestry England Census 1891    78 Walther Lane   Hindley Lancashire
DARBYSHIRE  Thomas   58y   coalminer             b.  Kitt Green Lancashire
DARBYSHIRE  Sarah      58y                              b. Ince Lancashire
DARBYSHIRE  Thomas   23y   coalminer              b. Hindley Lancashire
DARBYSHIRE  Robert     19y striker blacksmith    b. Hindley Lancashire
DARBYSHIRE Mary        17y                               b. Hindley Lancashire
DARBYSHIRE  Peter       13y    coalminer             b. Hindley Lancashire
HILTON          John          7y    g.son                   b. Hindley Lancashire   

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Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« Reply #14 on: Monday 24 October 22 08:15 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There are the following entries on findagrave,com which may be Elizabeth's parents -

At Ince in Makerfield Cemetery, Wigan

Susannah Hilton - Birth 1847 Death 30 October 1895 age 48 - notes say Petticoat Lane wife of John C429 RC.

and a MAYBE for John Hilton - Birth 1845 Death 27 April 1910 age 65 - notes say Union Workshop, Wigan C1608 CofE

Worth exploring?

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Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« Reply #15 on: Monday 24 October 22 11:36 BST (UK) »
As she was b 1871 she could have married any time from 1891 onwards.  There are at least 8 Elizabeth Hilton marriages in the Wigan RD from 1891-1901 - how did you arrive at the 1896 marriage being hers?

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Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« Reply #16 on: Monday 24 October 22 11:49 BST (UK) »
To know if you have the correct marriage go back to your last known factual evidence.

You say you are looking for your grandfather's sister.

Who is he and what have you found so far.

When and where did he die. Who was his father on his marriage certificate. How old was he when he died.

I'm been following the brother's of Elizabeth who had a mother's maiden name Unsworth.

Joseph born 1869, married mq 1891 Mary Ann Hulock
John William born 1877 died 1906 aged 27
Thomas born 25.4.1892, died 1972 married Ann Gore dq 1914, died.

Are either Joseph or Thomas your family line.

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Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« Reply #17 on: Monday 24 October 22 14:44 BST (UK) »
Children found using the GRO index.

There are a number of children with surname Wright and mother Hilton born in Wigan.

I used the census entries to find known children listed and then looked for baptisms.

That's how I found Emily.

St. Peter's Hindley
Hannah born 1 August 1899 bap. 14 September - address Lord's Street father overlooker
Emily as above             GRO Index for her death
James born 2 October 1905 bap. 26 October   --Atherton Road
Nellie born 1 July 1908 bap. 30 August   -Atherton Road

The age difference depended if the child had a birthday before or after the census was taken.

with the dates of birth provided by amondg, James and Hannah appear in 1939 with these dates. Also with them is mother Elizabeth with a dob 14.7.1871 all living in Stockport. A contender for her death

Deaths Mar 1940   
Wright    Elizabeth    aged 68    Stockport    8a   180

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