where is William Jones ??

[weenie]

good evening all, i would like some help trying to find the whereabouts of William Jones.
I thought the release of the 1921 census would help .. but im still unsure of which william Jones. - i do have the subscription btw.

so William Jones was born 1872 Mold Wales to Owen and Eleanor Jones. William moved to Liverpool sometime between 1901 and 1911. with the rest of the family sibilings and mother.
in 1911 he is listed with his sister and her family the Summersgills listed as single and smithstriker.
i have lost him after that. now i have traced his sisters both Margaret and Mary Summersgills on the 1921 Census and he isnt with them. his brother John is also AWOL since 1891 in Liverpool but ill dig further after i hope to find William.

now looking at the 1921 census i did find one that suggested could be him living with Eliza Mary as his wife , he occupation is a lunatic Attendant no children.
i looked up a marriage and found one for
William to Eliza Mary Minshaw in 1915. but it says his father is William so dont think its mine.

where oh where could he be?

Weenie

[PaulineJ]

Died in the great war?

Did you check all those candidates?

[weenie]

I have looked, but so many William Jones .. nothing is coming straight up with parents names iether so i dont think his ww1 records are available if there is any.

thats trouble with Jones etc far too blooming many 
Weenie

[ColC]

I note on the 1911 census his age was wrongly transcribed as 87 but census was altered to 37, there is a tree on Ancestry which has his baptism on 7th July 1872 attached, if you know his date of birth you could check the 1939 Register, that is if he lived to the age of 67.

As he was 39 in 1911, it is possible he never married.

Colin

[curtainhooks]

There is a William Jones on the 1939 register living in Liverpool with Eliza Mary. He was born on the 9th August 1872 and was a retired male nurse, so if you can find his exact birthday you can double check this isn't him .
There are also quite a few more in the 1939 register in Liverpool, so if you can confirm his birthday date or even the month then it might help narrow it down.
Good Luck,

edit: someone else's family tree says William was born in June 1872.

[willyam]

Weenie,

This is a bit of a long shot but hopefully might be of some help.

You have related: first - that William's occupation in the 1911 census was that of a Blacksmith's Striker; and second - that his year of birth was 1872.

Upon seeing these, my initial reaction was that, in the context of him having possibly served during WW1, William would have been an ideal candidate for (voluntary) enlistment in the Remount Service of the ASC.

Therefore, with this in mind, I speculatively searched via Ancestry to find any soldiers named William Jones whose service was associated with The Remounts. I did this by entering R4/ (exact) in the 'Keyword' search field - R4/ being the prefix indicator for Remounts service numbers.

This search produced multiple results but, of these, one in particular caught my eye. This was for a William Jones with the service number of R4/069218 - so I reduced the number of results by using (exactly) that whole service number in the 'Keyword' field, which narrowed the results down to just 5.

Of these 5 results, the 2 most productive were: the Silver War Badge (SWB) roll and the summary of the Pension Record Ledger for this man.

The SWB roll because it shows that he enlisted on 24 July 1915 - at which time the ASC had been running a national advertising campaign to urgently find (upper-age-restricted) recruits* for The Remounts (*such as Blacksmiths):
and
the Pension Record Ledger because it indicates a) that his year of birth was 1872 and b) that his residence place was Bootle, Liverpool - which, as I am sure you will already know, is not so very far away from his 1911 location at Walton on the Hill.

With regard to the latter record, if you are so inclined, it may be worth signing up for access to Fold3 to be able to see the whole record - as it might reveal additional information that could help you with your post-1911 search for William.

By the way, the nearest Remounts Depot to Walton & Bootle was at Lathom Park in Ormskirk - just 11 miles away, where horses brought in from overseas to Liverpool docks were sent, for preparation prior to being relocated to France.

Willyam

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I realise that this is an old post and you mighht have found this already, but just in case 

In 1921 William JONES age 49, born Mold, Smiths Striker, is married to Ann and living in Liverpool. Both FindMyPast and Ancestry have transcribed his POB as Lincolnshire but the image clearly shows Mold, Flintshire.

Looking at electoral rolls William and Annie are living at the same address, 55 Coniston Street from 1918 to 1923, then Annie is there from 1924 until 1955. I wonder if William died in 1923/1924?


Regards,
Daisy