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Dating an army photograph
« on: Tuesday 11 October 22 23:20 BST (UK) »
Hello, can anyone help me date the attached photograph?

I've always assumed it was connected to relatives who were in the army around the time of the Great War.

I've included a close-up in case the cap badges help.

Thank you
Thorpe, Feak & Townsend (Norfolk) / Ormandy & Slater (Dalton-in-Furness) / Corner (Liverpool) / Wray (Lincolnshire) / Fidler, Bridge & Turner (Derbyshire)

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Re: Dating an army photograph
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 October 22 22:48 BST (UK) »
It doesn't look like a WW1 photo more like WW2 or even later. A couple of the older guys have medal ribbons so they could have been earned in an earlier war.
If would best to put this on the Military Board for a more informed response. Showing the full photo including the back always helps as these are dating aids.
Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Dating an army photograph
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 October 22 22:53 BST (UK) »
I thought with the caps WW1 but then one man at the front has a hat like WW2 .
Can’t quite make out the badge but they are a nice lookin lot!
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Re: Dating an army photograph
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 October 22 22:57 BST (UK) »
One guy on the front row is wearing a Glengarry and tartan trousers so one of the Scottish Regiments.
Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Dating an army photograph
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 October 22 22:58 BST (UK) »
I would agree it is post WW1. There are a few very young lads in amongst the faces.
Front row appear to have a variety of cap badges. Front row also seem to be displaying on the ground in front, trophies and medals. What a shame one cannot read what is written on the large trophy cup.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
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Re: Dating an army photograph
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 October 22 23:03 BST (UK) »
Yes I agree Neale, pershaps a high res scan at around 600-800dpi image of the the cup would reveal valuable information. If the poster is in possession of the original.
Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Dating an army photograph
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 October 22 23:04 BST (UK) »
The cap badge on the young men is that of The Royal Army Ordnance Corps.
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.

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Re: Dating an army photograph
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 October 22 23:25 BST (UK) »
The composition of the group makes me think this may be a training establishment, with the permanent staff seated in the front row being drawn from an number of other regiments, predominantly the Light Infantry. I don't think this is a platoon in basic training because of the number of cups they appear to have won. Basic training only lasts about 12 weeks and there wouldn't be time for something like a shooting team to enter that many competitions. That makes me think this may have been an RAOC junior soldiers battalion where the recruits remained for a couple of years. If I'm right about that, this article may provide more clues: https://www.juniorleadersraoc.co.uk/History/History_ofJuniorTraining_inRAOC.pdf

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Re: Dating an army photograph
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 October 22 11:29 BST (UK) »
Just to confirm this is post WW1 the Officers cuff rank insignia was discontinued in 1920.
Only the oldest 2 Officers have WW1 medal ribbons which gives the impression
this is 1930's & before the uniform change.
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Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
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