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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 02 November 22 18:34 GMT (UK) »
***MARTIN*** from the rest of my Nosworthy notes
Chudleigh Deed of covenant for levying a fine, Chudleigh, 18th October 1824
   ...1) Richard Richards of Chudleuigh, limeburner and Ann his wife,
and James Nosworthy of North Tawton, saddler and Elizabeth his wife
     2) John Richards of Gappah in Kingsteignton, gamekeeper Premises...
         messuage, tenement or dwellinghouse with garden adjoining
         on the east side of Exeter Way, part of Shapter's tenements.
  Also, 3 messuages, tenements or dwellinghouses erected on the site
  of a messuage, tenement and backhouse which were destroyed by the
  great fire of 1807, formerly 2 messuages in Culver St, Chudleigh.
*** NOTE: Richard Richards married "Ann Martin" 1817 Chudleigh
   Richard Richards 1841 Residence: Kerswell House ( wife Ann died childbirth 1826 )
      1851 Rich'd is living Old Exeter Street with a servant - Old Exeter Street
     Richard Richards BIRTH 1791  (Powderham on 1871 census) DEATH 27 Jan 1872
       Inscription In memory of ANN wife of Richard Richards of this
      parish who died the 15th Day of December 1826 aged 36 years.
       Anna- daughter who died Sept 1st 1826 aged 7 mo.
      also in loving memory of Richard Richards who died at Torquay Jan 27th 1872
 
John Martin of Chudleigh, mason 1790s:
   before fire of 1807:
Devon Heritage Centre Reference number 4516Z/T/1-2
     1) John Causley of Chudleigh, mariner
***2) John Martin of Chudleigh, mason
      3) Joseph Collings of Chudleigh (nominated in trust for John Martin)
Premises: three cottage or dwellinghouses on the east side of Exeter Way
in Chudleigh, with a garden or plot of ground, part of several messuages or
 tenements known as Shaptors Tenments.Date  2nd May 1796-3rd May 1796
 https://devon-cat.swheritage.org.uk

Marriage  Dec. 14  1785   John MARTIN    Mary HOW
   Martin Elizabeth   b. May 5th 1788  Baptism  28 May 1788   Chudleigh, Devon, England
    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGPX-4VSK
   Ann Martin-b. Nov. 5   Baptism 3 Dec  1786
   Ann Martin- Baptism Jan 17  Baptism  3 Feb  1790
   https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLB6-VPTX
Grave Plot # 282 St Martin and St Mary Churchyard Chudleigh
  Martin John   b.1755   d.1821   age 66
    Martin Ann     b.1786   d.1789 age 3   
  Martin Mary   b.1756   d.1803   age 47
only 4 plots away #279   are
 Nosworthy Mary   b.1732  d.1809   age77     
 Nosworthy Robert    b. 1705     d.1791   age 86
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:St_Martin_and_St_Mary_Churchyard
 Robert Nosworthy of Chudleigh, yeoman  Children of Robert & Mary Nosworthy
 Mary  1760   Robert 1761  Robert 1763   Elizabeth 1765   Grace 1767 Ann 1769
May not be relevant:
  Marriage 26/10/1797 Thomas SHAPTER & Elizabeth HOW
  There was also a John Nosworthy, yeoman Chudleigh in  1732
  Thomas Hill apprenticed to John Nosworthy, yeoman, for Coombes Read and Bobbages

also...Poor young Thomas:  His friend forgave him...
 http://medicalgentlemen.co.uk/patients-and-diseases/typhoid-budd-1
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 03 November 22 02:06 GMT (UK) »
I can certainly see your researching skills are far above mine J.J. !! I hadn't tried to look back from Elizabeth Martin, but it would seem you have certainly found her parents. Family search also has a Susanna Martin buried Chudleigh on 14 November 1792, Bishops Transcripts, who doesn't appear to listed in the Wiki Tree entries. .. maybe no stone. Are you suggesting a possible connection to the Robert and Mary Nosworthy buried there? I'm going to look at Graham Nosworthy's work and see what he has on them.  I see you have their children listed.

What does this mean in today's English: Chudleigh Deed of covenant for levying a fine, Chudleigh, 18th October 1824
   ...1) Richard Richards of Chudleuigh, limeburner and Ann his wife,
and James Nosworthy of North Tawton, saddler and Elizabeth his wife

Are you thinking that the Ann Martin who married Richard Richards, was a sister to Elizabeth? Probably born too late for that though? But connected in some way for sure.

"Poor Thomas" certainly didn't do well on either side of the ocean. I agree. No mention of him in newspapers that I can find.

James Nosworthy who died in 1855, Eggbuckland: I did ask about will. Charge would be around 15 pounds.... given that it is looking more and more like this line will not connect up to mine, I doubt I can talk myself into buying it.

Index to Death Duty Registers, 1796-1903; James NOSWORTHY; residing Eggbuckland, Devon; Exec: John Nosworthy ... illegible address.  This would be the son who stayed in England then. Found him also in later censuses.

I also lucked out in finding the memorial stone for James and Elizabeth ... copyright and image poor, but definitely them. https://web.plymouth.gov.uk/archivescatalogue/

https://quinte.ogs.on.ca/find-it/  A search for James Nosworthy at this website does pull up documents, but no will for his death in Belleville. I will contact the fellow you mentioned earlier and see what happens. 

Not sure what happened to the family of Charles Wesley Nosworthy who died in 1900, but from the newspaper it would seem he sold his business and his wife sold everything else: No sign of his wife in 1901. "Intelligencer, Dec 1, 1889: Lost and Found. Officer Morton picked up on Front st. yesterday a little girl 4 years of age who had wandered away from home. After considerable time had elapsed she was found to be a daughter of Chas. Nosworthy".

Intelligencer, 1 Jan 1896: Livery business of Chas. Nosworthy bought by Byron Way.

Intelligencer, 1 Nov 1896. Mr. D. J. Fairfield will sell by public auction at the residence of Mrs. Chas. Nosworthy, Albert St., the whole of her household furniture and effects on Tuesday, Nov. 10th.

NOSWORTHY, HORSWILL, YELLAND, CROCKER, POPE in Devon; NESWORTHY in Durham & Northumberland; FARLEY in Sussex; RICKARD in Cornwall.
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #56 on: Friday 04 November 22 19:04 GMT (UK) »
Not sure why you think that Anne Martin/Richards was too old to be Elizabeth's sister as it matches the birth date exactly. As for the older Nosworthy in Chudleigh, I have no idea if they are related in any way. I do know that the elder James may not have come from the area in which he worked. Small towns don't often need 2 saddlers, so he could have been born, or trained or moved there.
   While looking at notes for Ann...I think I forgot William Nosworthy b. 1822 to Jas. & Eliz. - in 1841 a William age - 15 Winkleigh, North Tawton, Fore Street...   Since 1831 - apprenticed ( also husbandry) to head of household Petheren, William, 60 Timber Merchant  ( actual surname Lethern or Letheren)
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #57 on: Monday 07 November 22 03:14 GMT (UK) »
You are right J.J., Ann would have been Elizabeth's sister; I didn't look at the date closely enough. Thanks.
So William, b. 1822, was around in 1841; I couldn't find him in 1851 though.

Going back to Ontario: After Charles Wesley Nosworthy died in 1900, I eventually found his wife, Emma L. (maiden name Jones) running a boarding house Niagara Falls, N.Y. State in 1900 census. Her daughter, Amy Harriet, was with her but her name has evolved into Dama Harriett. Emma (mother) married Roland S. MARVIN 4 Oct 1904. (N.Y. State marr. index). Her daughter "Dama, born 5 Nov. 1885 in Belleville, Ont., married George N. Allen. (U.S. Social Security Application and Claims Index). The marriage was announced in local paper .
NOSWORTHY, HORSWILL, YELLAND, CROCKER, POPE in Devon; NESWORTHY in Durham & Northumberland; FARLEY in Sussex; RICKARD in Cornwall.
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 01 December 22 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Just noted that FHS has the baptism under Rosworthy...another spelling to look out for. Further investigation of the page shows that the capital "R" is never like that, so must be an "N" with a mark on the scan.
You could look further into: Wm Horsworthy  Birth 1823  Merchant Navy Seaman  Military Service  UK
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #59 on: Friday 02 December 22 02:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for this re William Nosworthy / Rosworthy, J.J. I will see if I can add anything further on him.
NOSWORTHY, HORSWILL, YELLAND, CROCKER, POPE in Devon; NESWORTHY in Durham & Northumberland; FARLEY in Sussex; RICKARD in Cornwall.
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #60 on: Saturday 03 December 22 03:45 GMT (UK) »
Was excited to see Wm. Nosworthy working with a lumberman, as James in Ontario was a lumber merchant in the 1870s Ontario, and there was a significant trade market with Devon.  Of course he likely just ended up a farmer. Never found him as either, nor in census other than 1841. One was not always trained in the same trade as the master, and in this case he was already with him for 10 yrs.  Wonder if he was just being taken advantage of and just working as a free farmhand after his husbandry apprenticeship was over. His 7 years term was already well over as he'd been with his master since age 9 so 10 yrs by census... his age was manipulated for the census as he was 19 not 15 in 1841.
   There are also 3 deaths for Williams 1846, 48 & 53 in Okehampton district! Unfortunately no ages given...also see that James death listed Dec quarter 1855 -  as James Wosworthy -Plympton
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #61 on: Saturday 03 December 22 04:03 GMT (UK) »
The GRO website now has the ages for earlier deaths and these ages are posted for the years J.J. posted for the Okehampton deaths….

1846  94
1848  1
1853  79

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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #62 on: Saturday 03 December 22 04:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks PB...that rules out a death there for young William...Must have moved on. We're still waiting for Nikkei to get the information available on James Sr.'s will from the Devon archives. Should hopefully shed some light on benefactors to prove the connection, etc.!
 Just a reminder, Nikkei you just need to fill in the contact form ( Hit "Contact us about this file" to the left of his entry)  https://devon-cat.swheritage.org.uk/records/1078/IRW/N/319
 eileenwilson was kind enough to do a cemetery search for more family in Ontario, as the grandson owned a large section with many family plots ...but unfortunately there were only a few burials to be found in there. 
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