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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 25 October 22 03:45 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth WILLS is buried at Belleville Cemetery.
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 26 October 22 00:22 BST (UK) »
   Yes, I'd said she ended up there, although there are no direct ties found to your family (as yet)
I think you'd may want to look more thoroughly, before hanging your hat on the sadler. It seems likely but not absolute. Have you looked into the Marriage & Banns information for the parents? Also, I took the info from the devon FHS search which said those were Tawton birth dates, not christening dates. You'll need to confirm that on FindMyPast or Ancestry as FHS isn't always correct. Also his will 1856  Egg Buckland, Devon should be read to confirm. Three of the lads are not there with them in 1841, so that coincides with the journey to North America. Their eldest son, John, becomes postmaster for the town.
   Also, have you looked through all our information given to you by us and jotted down a quick tree?  It would be nice to know you've spent a few moments putting it all together.
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 26 October 22 02:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you J. J. for your message this evening. I have been making a tree based on all the comments. I have a great deal of the work done by Graham Nosworthy (deceased) (the link you sent from Tribal Pages, is his work). In the work he sent me years ago, he has Elizabeth Nosworthy bap 30. 10. 1789; died 6.2. 1877 in Canada. He states she married Thomas Wills, J.P. who died 1877 in Canada. Stated they had two children but did not continue the line.

This Elizabeth was one of number of children born to Thomas Nosworthy (1757-1792) and Martha Wilson.(1744-1814). They were: Thomas bap 9. 12. 1779, at Kenn, Devon; Samuel, 1781-1805; Joseph 1783; John 1784; William 1786-1816; James 1788; Elizabeth (who married Thomas Wills); and George 1792. I think there is a very good possibility that James died who married in North Tawton, and died in 1855 might have been a son of one of these sons of Thomas and Martha (Wilson) Nosworthy.

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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 27 October 22 15:01 BST (UK) »
I was thinking perhaps cousins rather than brothers & sisters. (Couldn't be a grandchild)  I noted the mother being Martha but there is a tree on FHS that claims a marriage for Elizabeth's brother, James, so you'd have to disprove those findings, first.
  1851 James is still a saddler but Elizabeth has passed away   https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJ3-JNF
says born 1789 Knackersknowle son John a sadler...daus. Martha a Milliner & Mary a house maid
  Thos 1831 & Eliz in 1824, were both indentured servants apprenticing Husbandry/Midwiffery.
Young Thomas attacked another youth in March 1840 (see url for details)...Townspeople petitioned & he was only jailed one year, so if found to be your Thos. the earliest he could have sailed out would have been 1841...It may have also prompted the move for the parents.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/CourtRecords/InquestsEX1839 
   Hope the will in 1856 contains some connecting clues for you.
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 27 October 22 23:18 BST (UK) »
So many issues to discuss... First of all, after an afternoon of research, I am making this suggestion for your consideration: I don't believe that the James Nosworthy, son of Thomas and Martha, is the correct James who married Mary CAME (Is this the marriage you were referring to that must be disproved?) .. Here is my reason: A Samuel Nosworthy married Elizabeth HUBBERD, in Exeter, 24 November 1788. Three children were baptised to a Samuel and Elizabeth: James, 25 Dec 1789;  Samuel 9 Nov 1790; and Joseph 4 Nov 1793. Then a James married Mary CAME, in Exeter, 5 July 1818; Then a James and Mary baptised a daughter, Elizabeth Hubberd Nosworthy 3 Oct 1819. Based only on the inclusion of Hubberd in their daughter's name, I am suggesting that this James (who married Mary Came) was not the son of Thomas and Martha. I believe then, that James, the son of Thomas and Martha IS the James who married Elizabeth MARTIN in North Tawton . Would you think this is a reasonable possibility?

Next, could you tell me where you see Thomas Nosworthy who left for Canada no earlier than 1841 mentioned about being apprenticed (along with Elizabeth ) in your earlier message. I can't seem to find that.

Thanks again for your time.
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #50 on: Friday 28 October 22 14:56 BST (UK) »
   Hello Nikkei, were you able to confirm Elizabeth Martin is the correct ancestor? Have you read the will? You haven't posted the contents.
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #51 on: Friday 28 October 22 15:45 BST (UK) »
I haven't seen any will at all. I searched for one for her husband, James, in 1855, but found nothing. I will look for one for his wife around 1846, but doubt there would be one. One never knows though. 

A James buried at Eggbuckland, 6 Nov 1855, age 68; Elizabeth on 5 Dec 1846, age 58 at Eggbuckland . This burial supports the 1851 census when James was a widower.

Oct 31, 1855; at Knackersknowle, near Plymouth, age 68 years, Mr. James Nosworthy, Saddler. Western Times 3 Nov 1855

Marriage: James Nosworthy, residing North Tawton, m Elizabeth MARTIN, residing Chudleigh.. 23 May 1813. by Banns. I have no way of tying "this" James to the family of Thomas Nosworthy and Martha Wilson, but I do believe the James who married Mary Came is not the correct son. What do you think?
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #52 on: Friday 28 October 22 20:50 BST (UK) »
1956 - With link to Devon Archives and Local Studies Service
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/d762aca7-6470-4c40-af93-454b5718866f
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Re: Thomas NOSWORTHY in Belleville, Ontario
« Reply #53 on: Friday 28 October 22 22:43 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for the link, J.J. I have contacted them by email.
NOSWORTHY, HORSWILL, YELLAND, CROCKER, POPE in Devon; NESWORTHY in Durham & Northumberland; FARLEY in Sussex; RICKARD in Cornwall.
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