Todd / Rollins

[gales]

HELLO  i m seeking details  William Todd born Canada West 1847.  Sister Ella Jane Todd born 1858 Canad West.     !860 they lived Potters Yates NY with George W Warner @ Mary Jane Warner  Mary Jane was born Rollins in Ireland  the family moved to Canada and then onto the US There is possibly some connection with the Rollins family, maybe Mary Jane had a Sister that died young. I have looked at a number of avenues . On checking later census I have drawn a blank with both William @ Ella Jane.  I have lots of details of George W @ Mary Jane Warner but no connection after 1860.   I would appreciate any help.   Thank You.

[oldohiohome]

Do I have this right?
Mr Todd
  + maybe Rollins?
    - William Todd (1847, Ont - )
    - Ella Jane Todd (1858, Ont - )
   
1860 Census Potters, Yates Co, NY
  George W Warner, 26, NY
  Mary Jane (Rollins) Warner, 22, Canada West
  William Todd, 13, Canada West
  Ella Jane Todd, 2, Canada West

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCQP-F94

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Edit: Disregard everything from here to the next dashed line. see next post.

The only William Todd I found in Ontario in 1851 is this one:

1851 Cartwright, Durham Co, Ontario
Henry Todd, 36, born Ireland
Mary, 30, born Canada
Jacob W, 8, born Canada
Samuel, 7, born Canada
William H, 5, born Canada
Ann, 2, born Canada

All Presbyterian Est.

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1851/Pages/results.aspx?k=cnsSurname%3a%22todd%22+AND+cnsGivenName%3a%22william%22+AND+cnsAge%3a%225%22+AND+cnsProvinceCode%3a%22CW%22

I don't know if he is the same person as this one:

1861 Cavan, Durham Co, Ontario
Joseph Kelly, farmer, 31, born Ireland
Thomas Kelly, 78, born Ireland
Elizabeth Kelly, 76, born Ireland
William Todd, laborer, 15, born Upper Canada

all Presbyterian

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1861&op=img&id=4107391_00215

or this one:

1871 Rawdon, Hastings North, Ontario
Ralph Lavis, 70, born in England, farmer, C of England
Mary Lavis, 77, born in England, C of England
William Todd, 25, born Ontario, servant, Wesleyan Methodist
Elizabeth Todd, 14, born Ontario, servant, Wesleyan Methodist, going to school

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1871&op=img&id=4396349_00460

There weren't that many William Todds in Ontario at the time. I thought there would be more. And I didn't find an Elizabeth Todd in 1861. I thought it was interesting that the difference in age between William and Elizabeth on the 1871 census was the same as the difference in age for the two young people you are looking for.

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Can you post a little more of what you know about the Rollins? Were they from the same part of Ontario as those censuses I found? Would Mary Todd, 30, on the 1851 census fit into their family?
But there is a problem with that theory - I doubt the Rollins parents would have named a daughter Mary and another one Mary Jane. It happens, but not often.

[oldohiohome]

The family of Henry and Mary Todd is intact on the 1861 census, with William included.

for index:
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1861/Pages/results.aspx?k=cnsSurname%3a%22todd%22+AND+cnsGivenName%3a%22jacob%22+AND+cnsAge%3a%2218%22+AND+cnsProvinceCode%3a%22CW%22

for image
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1861&op=img&id=4107391_00308

[gales]

I do appreciate your reply.  I would read up a little more on your notes.    Mary Jane Rollins was born Ireland I do have some details of her arrival in Canada with her Parents and then the move to the US. Mary Jane Rollins married my Gt Gt Grandfather. George W Warner Rochester Monroe NY.  Mary Jane died 1865 shortly after giving birth to a Son  George W Jnr  who died age 3 months,
    I will look up the details I have of the move to Canada and then onto the States.  I have never been able to connect the name Todd with the Rollins.    However I will send you those details asap.  Thank You again for your time Appreciated.

[gales]

  HELLO  The Rollins are from Aghalee Co Antrim Ireland.
 
   John Rollins  1810 Aghalee  married  Ann Cousins 1835 Aghalee
   Ann Rollins Wife 1812 Aghalee
   George Son 1830
.  Elizabeth  Daughter 1828
   John Son 1835
   Ann Daughter 1836
   Mary Jane Daughter 1837-1865  Maried George W Warner August 1855 New York
 
  Unfortunately I have mislaid the details of their immigration And Border Crossing.  John, Ann @ Mary Jane first went to Canada and then onto the Statess
 
  Mary Jane Rollins b 1837  Married George W Warner b 1836. m 1855 New York.  Sadly Mary Jane
 died shortly after childbirth July 1865.  Son George W Warner b June 1865  Gault Waterloo Ontario
  sadly died July 1865 age 3 months.  Died Rochester Monroe. They are buried Mount Hope Cemetery Rochester Monroe NY.

  With  Henry @ Mary Todd
  Jacob  Walton Todd Son 1842
  Samuel Son 1845-1920
  William Henry Son 1846 -1930
  Annie daughter  1850-1929
  Matilda Daughter 1852- 1926  ?
  Elizabeth Jane Daughter 1852  ?   Maybe twins or year or two difference in age.!
  Hamilton Gardiner Todd  Son 1854-1933
  Mary Maria Daughter 1860-1941
  Issac Newton Todd Son 186401932.

 Re The two Mary's I find this quiet common.,  I am called after my Mother Dorothy Mary.
     The Todds @ Rollins do appear to live around the same areas. Oddly 1865 Mary Jane @
     George lived in Gault Waterloo.  George's Mother Esther Warner married my Gt Grandfather 
     William Edley b 1853 Sheffield UK. They married Sept 1873 Rochester NY. At that time they lived
     St Catherines lincoln Ontario
     I will keep looking. I can send you  my email if you wish in case you come across anything,
     Thank You,