Daughter Helen, aged 14 at the time, testified at the trail. Parents also accused of neglect of Helena and her younger brother George (they and the deceased John all children from 1st marriage). At the trial it was mentioned that Helena and George were in the County Hospital since brother John's death but someone, perhaps relatives?, must have been looking after the youngest children at this time.
Custody of Helena and George was given to their mother's sister, Mrs. Geraldine Helena Hayward of Hampstead, West London.