Author Topic: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.  (Read 2327 times)

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UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
« on: Thursday 29 September 22 07:56 BST (UK) »
My interest in genealogy was ignited during the late 1980s when I was asked to help my son with his primary school homework, and I managed to make a considerable family tree for his father's side, but I never expected to discover my own ancestors who were all from central Europe.

It was the Jerry Springer WDYTYA episode in 2008 which alerted me to places I might start gathering information.  Of course by now, vast quantities of records are available on-line.

Having made a DNA test, early this year I was contacted by a distant link, who asked if I could help solve the mystery of a mutual link's parentage.  The person's mother, (now deceased,) spoke several languages fairly fluently, but had no genuine recollection of her parents; only confused memories of places she thought she had lived.

We struggle on with the research, which has led me to Ukraine, and the massacre of thousands of Jews at the Babi-Yar ravine on 29th September in 1941.  [Estimated 33,000 to 100,000]

My instinct tells me, the person's mother was a survivor of that dreadful event, but I am doubting the Nazi's made extensive lists of the people they slaughtered there!
And now the people of Ukraine suffer at the hands of the Russians.

These appalling genocides happen all around the globe to minority groups, over and over again.
Will we never learn?
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.

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Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babi-Yar Massacre.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 September 22 11:14 BST (UK) »
Is this of any help?

https://babynyar.org/en/names
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR
 & N. YKS,
Crawhall & Ions Weardale
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Bareš, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Straka & others from Czechia
Endesfelder from Saxony
Ripke from Poland

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Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 September 22 11:47 BST (UK) »
That is an excellent link that I didn't know about.

Search among 28,901 names.... how desperately shocking.  :'(
(And yes, my DNA connections among that number.)
 
Thank you Fiddlerslass.
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.

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Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 September 22 11:55 BST (UK) »
my Father in Law was born Ukraine 1927 - and at 16 went to fight in WW2 in Italy - I am posting in case you are not aware of an 11 mile wide section of Ukraine / Poland border - it has swapped hands between Poland and Ukraine several times - my father in law was born in this area - might I ask the surname you are researching ?  my father in law was a Kabluckyj - and our family has been to his village as recent as LAST March - a year before the Russian Invasion - his village is Rogatyn( Polish spelling ) / Rohatyn Ukraine spelling - I have done a lot of research on my wifes Ukrainian side of her family  :)
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Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 September 22 12:10 BST (UK) »
my Father in Law was born Ukraine 1927 - and at 16 went to fight in WW2 in Italy - I am posting in case you are not aware of an 11 mile wide section of Ukraine / Poland border - it has swapped hands between Poland and Ukraine several times - my father in law was born in this area - might I ask the surname you are researching ?  my father in law was a Kabluckyj - and our family has been to his village as recent as LAST March - a year before the Russian Invasion - his village is Rogatyn( Polish spelling ) / Rohatyn Ukraine spelling - I have done a lot of research on my wifes Ukrainian side of her family  :) 

Thank you. 
Frankly I know rather less than nothing about Eastern Europe, but the names which seem to connect me to the person I am trying to help, are PLACZEK from the Nakel, Posnan area of Poland, and USACH in Ukraine, (Kiev).
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.

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Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 September 22 15:34 BST (UK) »
Thank you Garstonite.
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.