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Murphy Family Shoreditch
« on: Friday 16 September 22 11:04 BST (UK) »
Good Morning,

John Murphy lived in Shoreditch with his family in 1851, he is a Silk Dyer, his wife Mary Anne nee Hendry was born in 1818, in St Lukes, Shoreditch, they married in 1837 at St Leonards, their children Thomas, Catherine, John and Mary Ann were born in Shoreditch, Daniel , the eldest was from Johns first marriage.

In 1861, John and Mary Ann are still in Shoreditch with their son John, though the other children are missing, and Daniels wife Bridget is there, with their newborn son John.

Daniel goes on to live in Peckham, later in life, thats where his offspring  settle, but I can't find John, the silk dyer or the children after 1861. the mother Mary Ann is in Peckham in 1881, but can't find her death.

Any help appreciated. Thankyou

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Re: Murphy Family Shoreditch
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 September 22 11:54 BST (UK) »
Hi
This could be Mary 1871
11 Scarborough St St Pancras
Annie Musgrave  married Head 37 annuitant Maidstoe Kent
Charles son 7 mths
Mary Murphy widow 54 nurse Middlesex London

Unfortunately there are a lot of John and Mary Murphys.

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Re: Murphy Family Shoreditch
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 September 22 12:43 BST (UK) »
Did they not register any of their children?

Using GRO Index I cannot see any Murphy children with mothers maiden name Hendry in Shoreditch

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Re: Murphy Family Shoreditch
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 September 22 13:13 BST (UK) »
You haven't given any relevant details for John

1851 shows birthyear 1795 & 1861 shows birthyear 1801 & birthplace Cork Ireland

Do you have them in 1871?

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Re: Murphy Family Shoreditch
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 September 22 21:47 BST (UK) »
I think you have the wrong marriage 27 November 1836 to Mary Ann Hendry.

No children born until 1843 - none with mother's maiden name Hendry
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There is a Julia born 1838 Shoreditch mother Hendry but your family doesn't have a Julia.

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Re: Murphy Family Shoreditch
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 September 22 21:54 BST (UK) »
The 1836 marriage entry shows John Murphy as a widower & one of the witnesses was Daniel Murphy
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Re: Murphy Family Shoreditch
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 September 22 14:55 BST (UK) »
yes this is the right marriage.

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Re: Murphy Family Shoreditch
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 September 22 14:58 BST (UK) »
You haven't given any relevant details for John

1851 shows birthyear 1795 & 1861 shows birthyear 1801 & birthplace Cork Ireland

Do you have them in 1871?

no I havent found them after 1861

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Re: Murphy Family Shoreditch
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 September 22 16:05 BST (UK) »
Do you have any birth certificates?
There are none with mothers maiden name Hendry listed, based on the names of the children in the census