Sleuths wanted!

[heywood]

Burial Anfield Cemetery 6th December 1868
Henry Edward Seymour, 41 years, Mitylene Street, Kirkdale

No occupation shown

[osprey]

sorry, heywood, I added the burial detail to my post later. and hadn't seen your post.   

[heywood]

sorry, heywood, I added the burial detail to my post later. and hadn't seen your post. 

It’s easily done 

I have tried a newspaper search but nothing at the time.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

death reg
Henry Edward Seymour 41 dec qtr 1868 West Derby vol 8b pg 335
burial Anfield Cemetery 6 Dec 1868 address noted as Mitylene Street, Kirkdale.

birth reg
Amy C Seymour sept qtr 1870 Liverpool vol 8b pg 174 mmn Coles

Henry Edward can't be her biological father. Who is John, gas fitter, named on Amy's baptism? Perhaps that's where the DNA connection comes in?

well it's not Elizabeth's next husband as he's called Robert Taylor and was a mariner. They married 22 Dec 1878  - her father is Henry Coles, bootmaker

[heywood]

There is this entry

1841 1425 /15/23
Cardiff

Henry Coles 35 yrs Shoe M not born in county
Mary Coles 25 yrs not born in county
Eliza Coles   1 yr born in county
Henry Coles 5 months  born in county

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Baptsms at Cardiff St John. Just to be confusing they've used various forms of Elizabeth - all born to Henry, a cordwainer/shoemaker, and Mary of Bute Street

Eliza Coles        7 Oct 1838
Betsy Coles        20 Oct 1839        
Henry Coles        14 Feb 1841    
Mary Ann Cole    2 Oct 1842

By 1851 Henry has died, Mary is remarried and they're living in Timberscombe nr Minehead

Henry Edwards    50
Mary Edwards    39
Betsy Cole    11 b Cardiff
Mary Cole    8 b Cardiff
Thomas Edwards    1
John Edwards    1 Mo
Thomas Pergaley    72

HO107; 1920; 223; 24;

[Mabel Bagshawe]

1861 has a possible Eliza Coles b Cardiff c 1840 in Bristol - servant to the Holesgrove family

[rshird]

Thanks all this is really helpful!

For info, Amy's marriage certificate states Henry as her father but seems improbable. Bizzarley Amy also married a John Seymour who was killed at sea aboard the HMS Cobra in 1901!

This next bit is also weird - I found a marriage certificate of a Henry Seymour (mariner) marrying a Catherine Standish 13/8/1862 and Henry's father is listed a John Henry Seymour...gas fitter!

[Willow 4873]

I'm not convinced the info we have found is correct I mean what happened to Clara or Mary Ann from the 1861 census?

Could the John and Elizabeth Seymour mentioned be relatives?

Willow x