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Re: 1891 census. Johns.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 10 September 22 18:10 BST (UK) »
I agree with you re birthplaces - cause a lot of confusion.  If the poster has him in 1901 & his birthplace is given as St Annes Soho - it's a different person than the one found in 1891
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Re: 1891 census. Johns.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 10 September 22 18:17 BST (UK) »
Maybe

1901 610/31/7

Henry John, 50 yrs b Soho, London
He is single and a Journeyman Bootmaker boarding in Aldershot.
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Re: 1891 census. Johns.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 10 September 22 18:30 BST (UK) »
That man looks to have married by 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW8C-KKM

His age is 50yrs
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Re: 1891 census. Johns.
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 10 September 22 18:31 BST (UK) »
1901 entry would give a birthyear of 1851 & 1911 - 1861 but post says 1858

I really think we need to wait for dudjac to clarify the 1901 entry
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Re: 1891 census. Johns.
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 11 September 22 09:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all of your rep[lies.
 In 1901 henry Johns was in Aldershot employed as a bootmaker. ...as Heywood says. On the 1901 census Henry is given as 50 years old (b.1851), single and born in Soho, London.
In 1911 the census shows Henry as still in Aldershot but is married and residing at Perowne Street.
He apparently is still 50 years old.     The fact that he says he is married is untrue.   He gives his wife as Ellen Johns but in fact there was no marriage. She is Ellen Weedon (nee Mason)
They are renting a room from Ellens brother.  Also on the census are two children.   One  is Amelia
(my mother) born 1911.  What is not mentioned is that   Ellen has three other children in a childrens home in Crondall.   Ellen and Henry had another daughter soon after but she died as a baby.    Henry then disappears and I cannot find any trace thereafter.   A death of a Henry Johns in Aldershot about 1935 is NOT my Henry
Some three years after Henrys disappearance   Ellen reverts back to her previous married name of
Weedon  and marries a George Sotheran in Aldershot.
Henry Johns is my grandfather on my mothers side. I can find no definite results as to where Henry came from prior 1901 and where he disappears to after 1911.
Hope this is clear.
Dud.


Jacobs- Dorset
Parsons- Wiltshire.
Masons- Farnham Surrey
Johns-  Soho London

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Re: 1891 census. Johns.
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 11 September 22 11:53 BST (UK) »
Have you checked 1921? I have to say, I can’t see him as John/s.
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Re: 1891 census. Johns.
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 11 September 22 13:52 BST (UK) »
You say the 1936 death is not your Henry.

That Henry Johns was 73 so birth year completely out.  However - there is no other Henry Johns in Aldershot in 1901 or 1911 although I accept that could have changed in the 25 yrs to the death. 

Don’t know about the 1921?

Can you tell us why you have ruled him out?

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Re: 1891 census. Johns.
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 11 September 22 14:50 BST (UK) »
I believe that the Henry that died 1936 was a Henry Johns born 1862 in Hartley Witney (Aldershot.) He was a gardener by profession.   I have the death certificate of this Henry. which shows he was a gardener although no relatives were given on the certificate. He died in Aldershot hospital.  Dud.
Jacobs- Dorset
Parsons- Wiltshire.
Masons- Farnham Surrey
Johns-  Soho London

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Re: 1891 census. Johns.
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 11 September 22 16:33 BST (UK) »
Definitely rules him out
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