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Re: Ancestry and 1939 register
« Reply #9 on: Monday 05 September 22 15:36 BST (UK) »
The 1939 Register was NOT Completed by the Householder But by a Visiting Enumerator and Completed based on what they were told if they could remember them all for everyone even if they knew.
Even then the Enumerator transcribed so many anyway.
So many Evacuees couldn't tell the Householder what their exact Birth Date was which is why so many can't be found now using exact Dates.
Yes the GRO only shows the Quarter which if you are Really Researching your Ancestry then you send for the Birth Certificate to get more accurate Information even then that doesn't necessarily state the Truth.
I have several Birth Certificates with Relatives Born on their Birth Certificates long after the Priest Baptised them previously.
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Re: Ancestry and 1939 register
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 06 September 22 15:16 BST (UK) »
The 1939 Register was NOT Completed by the Householder But by a Visiting Enumerator and Completed based on what they were told if they could remember them all for everyone even if they knew.

Sorry, but that's wrong.  It was done in the same way as the censuses, with forms being delivered to households for completion and later collected and transcribed by enumerators.

"The names in the Register were copied by the enumerator from the household schedules, hand-written by the householders."
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/1939-register/
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Re: Ancestry and 1939 register
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 06 September 22 16:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sloe Gin
I stand corrected. Learnt something new.
I could see the Register we see was not the Original completed by the Householder from the same handwriting and it explains why there are so many incorrect transcribed cases as I have found as a Researcher
Thanks again
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Re: Ancestry and 1939 register
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 06 September 22 17:14 BST (UK) »
As usual, people may have lied about (or not known) their year of birth, but they almost always got their birthday right.

So cross-referencing the Register with the GRO index should get their actual date of birth.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Ancestry and 1939 register
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 06 September 22 17:33 BST (UK) »
My Mother in law had one Birth Date declared by her Parents on the 1939 Register
Another Birth Date celebrated by herself and her Family and entered on her Death Certificate and Headstone
Was a big shock years later doing research I sent for her Birth Certificate and got an entirely different Date registered on her Birth
One other Relative has his Birth Date registered on the final 42nd deadline and Invented
The Priest Recorded the Real Birth Date in his Consecutive Baptism Register some 6 weeks before his Birth Certificate says he was Born
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Re: Ancestry and 1939 register
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 06 September 22 18:09 BST (UK) »
The Priest Recorded the Real Birth Date in his Consecutive Baptism Register some 6 weeks before his Birth Certificate says he was Born

I too have come across births registered as being after the baptisms dates, often with an actual DOB quoted in church.

All to avoid a stern talking to because dad spent more than six weeks "wetting the baby's head".   ;D
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Ancestry and 1939 register
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 06 September 22 21:17 BST (UK) »
Yes, I've found several examples myself.
Liverpool - Ireland 
 Skerries, County Dublin - Thorn(ton),  Wicklow -  Traynor
Baltray, Co. Louth, McGuirk and  Co. Mayo -  Phillips
Isle of Man - Harrison -  Andreas and Morrison - Maughold, 
Durham, Hetton and East Rainton area  - Brown and Kennedy
Northumberland - Clough, Longbenton