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Offline Mhillbilly

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1939 Register question
« on: Monday 05 September 22 03:31 BST (UK) »
I can speculate but wonder if anyone knows the reason why in the 1939 register I have found pages of redacted names at the end of multiple enumerators book that I was reviewing.

I am doing a friends and neighbor search so have scanned the pages before and after where my ancestors are present.  It then became very obvious when I scrolled through the filmstrip that this was in more than 1 enumerators area, ruling out an institution for multiple children.

I am looking at Middlesex, Hornsey Metropolitan Borough but it was the same on the Middlesex Friern Barnet MB I recently viewed. Not on all but most.
This is not individual members of a family but sometimes whole pages of blacked out entries.

My speculation would be they were all children that had been evacuated but that would mean they are counted twice?

Does anyone know the real answer to what they are?


 

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Re: 1939 Register question
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 September 22 04:02 BST (UK) »
My initial thought when I read your post was possibly hospitals or schools with infants/children but for them all to be at the end of the books is unlikely.

I think not many people will have come across what you have i.e. maybe post a link for those with access to work out?

It seems rather odd  :-\

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 1939 Register question
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 September 22 04:18 BST (UK) »
Not sure how to post a link but looked at another relative this time in Islington Metropolitan Borough in London and again got a similar result

Attached is the screen shot from ancestry showing pages on film strip


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Re: 1939 Register question
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 September 22 05:07 BST (UK) »
Is it possible to email them with the relevant info. & pic to enquire?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: 1939 Register question
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 September 22 05:28 BST (UK) »
The last column in the two page spread is not viewable to us (or anyone) and that is the 'postings' column.

The ‘postings’ column on the right hand page which contains various codes used for National Registration and National Health Service purposes. The National Archives does not have access to this column and the information it contains.

When this column is full there is a continuation entry added at the end of the book so you will see these lists of individuals who already appear in earlier recorded households.  They are usually noted as 'see page x'.  It makes sense that most are redacted because they are likely to be younger people  who lived longer and so generated the most recorded health events.

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/1939-register/

Debra  :)


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Re: 1939 Register question
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 September 22 06:57 BST (UK) »

A lot of the people have a also been in the registers. They appear with a line through them and a note saying what page they are on.

The enumerable number & address will let you know what the first entry is so you should look at that for the rest of the family.

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John
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Firth, Wood, Muffitt
Hill, Mattinson, Nicholson
Morrey, Hudson, Limb

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Re: 1939 Register question
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 September 22 23:32 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your comments

The answer is they were created after the census was taken as continuation records,  thank you Debra for pointing to the national Archives explanation.

If you would like to prove it then just find one with a 'see page x' notation and follow the link.
It also explains why some have started to appear as the process of matching death records releases records.

Thanks again
I know we sometimes go down 'rabbit holes' but it is nice to have them closed.


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Re: 1939 Register question
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 September 22 01:16 BST (UK) »
A page at the end of a book often consists entirely of 'continuation entries' - you can also tell by the fact that the schedule numbers are out of sequence, and often in different handwriting. But most of the the blacked-out lines will be blank, and not actual closed/redacted entries.

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Re: 1939 Register question
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 September 22 07:06 BST (UK) »

The answer is they were created after the census was taken as continuation records....


It wasn't a census in 1939 - it was the 1939 National Register.
This was used to help with the issue of ID Cards and Ration Books.
It was then taken over by the NHS and updated by them until the 1990's.



Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo