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Offline Fresh Fields

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Re: This is not a look up request but a question.
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 September 22 21:58 BST (UK) »
Hello.

Please don't forget that the dead may leave clues to the living. Surname searches of New Zealand National Archives, may produce likely candidates, and wills etc may name beneficiaries and place of residence at the time the will was made, or probated. All starting points for further research. How resent is it thought that the emigration may have taken place?

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 08 September 22 18:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Alan and thank you for another couple of valid suggestions which I will pass on to the administrators. I don’t know when the  emigration took place, as I have indicated, I am not involved with the actual search but just asked for suggestions where ever possible. Having been involved in the administration of a deceased estate in recent years which involved ,Australia, the UK and Canada, I was reluctant to get involved with this one as I know how time consuming, frustrating and hard work being an administrator can be, and quite frankly, I am too old now to get consumed by all the intricacies of the process.
  But thanks again for your input
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 September 22 21:17 BST (UK) »
You are welcome.

I too have been an administrator, and or trustee, but fortunately for me, only within NZ. There are a number of volunteers on the NZ forum, that have great expertise, and are happy to assist where they can. Two of us, in the recent, past have also assisted with look ups at our local branch of the NZ National Archives. But due to covid, it's about a year since I made the 100 km trip to Auckland to do research.

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 September 22 22:48 BST (UK) »
Is it up to the administrators to track down distant and unknown relatives especially in different countries? It seems to be a task requiring specialist skills.

How much effort and research is required before putting it in the too hard basket? 

It’s an interesting dilemma PtE.  :)


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« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 September 22 04:44 BST (UK) »
Ruskie.

Fortunately for me, mine involved relatives within NZ and Australia, and there was no great issue tracking down the people we needed contact with. But surprising how far nine siblings can disperse.

Legal niceties, I expect, would be similar in countries who have roots in the former Commonwealth. But could have been refined over time, by the various Parliaments, and judgement rulings setting precedents.

Regardless there is a 'duty of care' that is called upon, by all who find themselves in that position.

Otherwise personal liability can come into play. I presume also the size of the available Estate funds, may be a factor.

A [late] contributing co-founder of another UK based genealogical forum, had a specialized side business providing advice, and searches of UK records, to lawyers involved in settling estates.

He was of considerable assistance to me, when researching pre civil records in Scotland, and the UK, but did not charge those he assisted through a request, placed a upon the public forums. When I PM'ed him offering to meet some SCOTLANDSPEOPLE research he instigated, he replied that being active on the forums, offering help, was his hobby, and NOT an accepted commission for his expertise.

I therefore now offer to pay that experience forward, by offering to do look ups if going to the Auckland Archives to do research.

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 09 September 22 07:33 BST (UK) »
So something along the lines of an “heir hunter” Alan? There used to be a UK TV series about an heir hunter company. It was often a specialised and complex process to locate any noks.

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« Reply #15 on: Friday 09 September 22 22:16 BST (UK) »
"Was" I think always will be, Especially in today's Society with all it's blended families, and less adherence to the formalities of Faiths, Lodges, and Fellowships, who's past records, can provide valuable secondary source material, in support of civil record keeping, and be more accurate than public press reporting.

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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 10 September 22 02:11 BST (UK) »
Yes of course. When I said is “was often a specialised and complex process” I was referring specifically to the stories in the TV series (rather than in general).  :)

I don’t know how “normal” people, especially those without any experience of family history research, would ever know where to start to find distant family who they have no knowledge of and who may live in another country. Often times people lose contact even with siblings or first cousins - how to ever find second cousins once removed for example, and you may not even know their names.  ;D

Surely not too much can be expected of administrators when it comes to trying to locate distant relatives, or is it dependant upon how big the inheritance is?

Interesting dilemma.


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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 13 September 22 01:36 BST (UK) »
Try "Papers Past" Free to access via google.  You can investigate areas such as Auckland, Christchurch.  Does not include recent newspapers.
Best of luck with your search.
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My sister and a cousin are administrators of another cousins estate, and have discovered that some of the possible beneficiaries are now living in New Zealand. Here in the Uk there are various ways to trace living relatives, but we have no way of knowing what sort of avenues are available in New Zealand that can be searched remotely. If anyone can offer any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
PtE