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Electoral Regsiter Help
« on: Friday 02 September 22 09:11 BST (UK) »
Hello all, I am looking for some help regarding the Liverpool, England, Electoral Registers, 1833-1970 for the residence year of 1911-1912.

I have found an entry for my family and in the third column it reads ‘dwelling house successive’ and in last column there are three addresses listed, the last address being his current abode.

I am trying to determine in which year they were actually living at these addresses, 1910 or 1911 as I want to work out when my family moved from Salford to Liverpool.

I am aware there was a qualifying date of July 31st, so am I correct to assume that the 12 month qualifying period began on the 31st July 1910 for the 1911-1912 register or the 31st July 1911 (am I correct in also thinking that the register was then published in October 1911). So when would this indicate that the family were living in these previous addresses.

I have them on the 1911 census, which I believe was taken in April 1911, living at the address given as their current abode, Gibbons Lane.

Can anyone make any sense of this or provide any help regarding these registers?

I cannot find my ancestor on an earlier census and he doesn’t appear again on the Electoral Register in Liverpool until the residence year of 1913-1914 but at a different address, without the word ‘successive’.

Kind regards

Ree Ree

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Re: Electoral Regsiter Help
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 September 22 19:55 BST (UK) »
Hi there, yes this is the correct family. I know they are in Salford until at least 1906 as a baptismal record confirms this, but I would love to work out when they actually moved to Liverpool if possible.

Thank you 😊

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 September 22 20:03 BST (UK) »
His entry in the 1911 Census records that he had been married for 13 years. I have found a marriage for a Robert Fields (a Labourer aged 36 years, father James Fields) marrying a Sarah Elizabeth Day (aged 30) The marriage certificate shows that Sarah Elizabeth residence was Tendring, Essex and Robert's residence was Pensistone, Yorkshire.

The 1901 Census shows that Sarah Elizabeth was born in Harwich, Essex -- Tendring is only 12 miles from Harwich. The 1911 Census shows her place of birth as Stonish Green, Essex -- no such place but there is a Stones Green, Harwich, Essex.


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« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 September 22 20:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you Allan, yes, that’s them!  ;D

The 1911 census shows them in Liverpool and they are there for the rest of their lives according to Electoral Rolls and Census records. This I’ve spent months researching. Ive found all the marriage, birth, baptism and death and electoral register records etc.

The last bit I’m trying to work out is their whereabouts between the years 1906 and 1911. I’ve found them on the Electoral Register for 1911/1912 as noted in my post above but don’t fully understand what it all means as shown above  ???

Help!!

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 September 22 20:19 BST (UK) »
P.s that was super quick work locating all of that information and records!!! Impressive  ;D

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 September 22 20:51 BST (UK) »

I am aware there was a qualifying date of July 31st, so am I correct to assume that the 12 month qualifying period began on the 31st July 1910 for the 1911-1912 register or the 31st July 1911 (am I correct in also thinking that the register was then published in October 1911). So when would this indicate that the family were living in these previous addresses.
Hi Ree Ree, You are right about the 31st July being the qualifying date, but the register did not come into force until the 1st January of the following year. The period between 31 July and 1 Jan was used to ensure the list was correct, allow for objections and where necessary remove voters who had died in the intervening period. The details can be found in Section 8 of the Representation of the People Act 1884. Thus a register dated 1911 would have be compiled and checked etc in 1910.

I assume you know that the reason for listing the earlier addresses was to show that the voter had been living in the borough during the preceding twelve months up to the qualifying date (in fact up until the 25th July). 

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 September 22 13:24 BST (UK) »
Hi ReeReeRee,

I have had a look in all of the sites / databases that I have access to but I can't find anything to say when the family moved to Liverpool. As you know, they were still in Salford when Elizabeth Gertrude was baptised in April 1906 but the trail goes cold after that until the 1911 Census. Sorry that I couldn't assist you further. :(

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 September 22 14:58 BST (UK) »
        The earliest date they are at 5 Rigby Street is 1913-14.     It is on Ancestry.    They stayed at Rigby St from 1914-15 up until 1920, then they are at 17 Earle Street.      Sometimes on the register, Sarah Elizabeth is down as just plain Elizabeth.       In 1925, Robert, Elizabeth and James are living at 17 Earle St.