Charles Robert EAGLES

[kellogs]

Hi 

I was hoping some kind soul(or souls might be able to help).

I am conducting some research into Charles Robert EAGLES. He was born in 1832 in Tonbridge, Kent to parents William Barnfather EAGLES and Marianne CRISPE. They were quite a wealthy family.

I know that he arrives in Melbourne, Australia on the 19th October 1852, travelling on the 'City of Poonah', along with his brother Henry Frederick EAGLES. Under the column 'Profession or calling', Charles puts 'Miner' and Henry, 'Farmer'.
In 1854 he married Henrietta Diana VAIL in Victoria.

Their first son Charles Walter EAGLES is born in 1855 in Wakapuaka, Nelson, New Zealand.
I next find him on a Jury List, dated 1856 in Nelson, New Zealand. Occupation 'Gentleman'.
The family return to Victoria in August 1856 on the ship 'Sea Serpent'.

They have daughter Marianne c. 1856 in Rushworth, Victoria(haven't located her birth record, location info from her marriage certificate to Charles LATHAM in 1878, they return to London in 1882).

Isabella born in 1861, Wang, Victoria, Died 1868

Rosa born in 1864, Heathcote, Victoria, Died 1868

Lucy born in 1867, Richmond, Victoria.

On Marianne's marriage certificate he is listed as 'Agent'. He died in 1868 and is buried in Melbourne General Cemetary.

And thats all I have for him. Have I exhausted all online records for him? I will probably get his and his two young daughters death certificate to find out why they all died in the same year, but I am curious to know what he did when he was alive in Australia.
I found a few family notices concerning his brother Henry on Trove, but that was through a search with their father's name.

So any help or suggestions on how, if at all, I can flesh the bones out of this man after he arrives in Australia, and why he was briefly in New Zealand, would be hugely appreciated

[Milliepede]

There is a family tree with him on and for 1854 occupation it says "spirit and wine merchant with brother Eagles Bros"

so that's a big clue and maybe something you can research further. 

[Milliepede]

Only 3 children listed on the tree - Isabella, Rosa, Lucy. 

[kellogs]

Hi
Well thats a new one, will have to see what directories are online.
I had noticed Marianne's abscence from some online trees. Maybe its because her birth record is not as easy to locate. I have her marriage certificate which has both parents names on so was able to work back from that.

[Milliepede]

No I can't see a birth for her either but as you have her marriage information she must belong.

[wivenhoe]

"In 1854 he married Henrietta Diana VAIL in Victoria."

What happened to Henrietta after 1868 when husband Charles Robert EAGLES died, and she was left with....at least one child?....... to support?

If Charles Robert EAGLES is a gentleman, and seemingly, involved in the wine business, you might expect to see him leave a Will?.. Do you see a Will anywhere?

VIC BDM
1115/1854 EAGLES  Charles Robert   marr.  VAIL, Henrietta
2611/1878 EAGLES Marianne    marr.   LATHAM, Charles

Can you please list  all the information on these two certificates.

The death certificate for Charles Robert EAGLES, died 1868, will be useful for your research.

It will be interesting to see what is recorded.

[wivenhoe]

The Argus 20 Jun 1854 p4
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4794534?
On Tuesday, at St. James's Cathedral, Henry Frederick, eldest son of William Barnfather EAGLES, Esq., of Russell-square, London, to Amelia Fanny, eldest daughter of John Thomas MATTINGLEY, late of Brunswick Brewery, Reading, Berkshire.

The Age  27 May 1877  p3
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/198307139?
EAGLES— On the 23rd May, at his residence Poplar House, Northcote, Henry Frederick, the be
loved husband of Amelia Fanny EAGLES, and son of William Barnfather EAGLES, of Havenside, St.
Leonards-on-Sea, Sussex, England.

Can you confirm that I am reading this correctly -

* Henry Frederick EAGLES, having arrived in Melbourne with brother Charles Robert EAGLES in 1852, is back in England to marry in 1854?

* In 1877, nine years after the death in Victoria, 1868, of Charles Robert EAGLES, there is a death notice in five newspapers in Victoria for death in England of his brother  Henry Frederick EAGLES.

* Does five newspapers suggest that the EAGLES family in England, at 1877, do not have direct contact with the family in Victoria of Charles Robert EAGLES?

* Does five newspapers suggest that the death of Henry Frederick EAGLES, England 1877,  is of interest to a wider readership than just the family of his brother, late Charles Robert EAGLES died Victoria 1868?

[sparrett]

Partnership with his brother Henry EAGLES was dissolved in July 1854. So, presumably, both were in Melbourne then
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4795594

There was a big sell up of goods from the premises a month after the dissolution. Aug 1854 Intesting items.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4796659 k

So it was just after this that your couple went to NZ

Sue

[sparrett]

Amelia Fanny, the wife of Henry Frederick EAGLES died aged 37 July 1st  1877.

She is memorialised on a family headstone at Melbourne General Cemetery.
Daughter of J T MATTINGLEY.
Also memorialised on the same headstone, her son aged 13 years, Montem James.
Death July 2nd 1877

Sue