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Re: Charles Robert EAGLES
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 01 September 22 08:31 BST (UK) »
This Death notice for Amelia at her home in Northcote.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5927722

Likewise the death notice for Henry, which I take to be in Northcote, Melbourne has been given above.

A sad family  story!
Sue

 


 
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Re: Charles Robert EAGLES
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 01 September 22 08:38 BST (UK) »

Yes, death Victoria, not England.

VIC BDM death
5904/1877   EAGLES  Henry Frederick   parents  Marion CRISP /  William Barn
age  47   spouse MATTINGLEY, Amelia Fanny


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Re: Charles Robert EAGLES
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 01 September 22 08:48 BST (UK) »
Amelia wrote a will weeks before her death bequeathing all to her several sons, one of whom is named Charles.

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/4474955A-F53A-11E9-AE98-37E8B4998EDE?image=1

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Re: Charles Robert EAGLES
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 01 September 22 11:40 BST (UK) »
Wivenhoe - When Charles died Henrietta was left with son Charles and remaining daughters, Marianne and Lucy. I haven't thought to see what happened to them, maybe not as easy as she is a woman but I cannot locate a will for either Charles or Henrietta. Henrietta died in 1877, again along with other members of the family, namely Henry and Amelia and one of their sons Montem, so even without getting the certificates my initial guess is one of the many dieseases of the day was the culprit for all these untimely deaths.
Haven't yet purchased Charles and Henrietta's marriage certificate but will do.
Marianne and Charles Latham married at the Victorian Free Church in Fitzroy, Victoria. Other than the details in the original post they were both of Stanley Street,Collingwood. She was an Assistant(Shop?) and he was a Cigar Maker.
It certainly is curious the glut of family notices concerning Henry and family and none for Charles.

Sue - Thanks for finding those notices about their business - I wonder what happened? Charles seems to have been left to pay the debts but that could have just been for ease I suppose.
I,ve just been reading about a large earthquake in New Zealand in 1855, I wonder if that had anything to do with their decision to return to Melbourne?
It does appear to be a sad story indeed, the brothers and Henrietta are buried together along with 4 of Henry's children in Melbourne cemetary. I can't find where Charles two children, Rosa and Isabella are buried though. :(
Belt in Hull,Yorkshire
Neave in Norfolk
Chant,Winton in London
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James in Wales
Russell in Pevensey
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Re: Charles Robert EAGLES
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 01 September 22 12:02 BST (UK) »
I wonder why Charles put "miner" as his occupation in 1852? In the 1851 census at 31 Tavistock Place Tottenham Court with his family his occupation is "with an underwriter" (I think).
HO107/1494/750 pg23

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Re: Charles Robert EAGLES
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 01 September 22 12:28 BST (UK) »
I wonder why Charles put "miner" as his occupation in 1852? In the 1851 census at 31 Tavistock Place Tottenham Court with his family his occupation is "with an underwriter" (I think).
HO107/1494/750 pg23

I have seen this kind of downplay of the occupation before on shipping records.
If assisted passage was sought, you needed to seem young, poorish and with an occupation that fitted with those characteristics.
Signs of affluence might disqualify you for govt immigration assistance.
Sue
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Re: Charles Robert EAGLES
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 01 September 22 13:10 BST (UK) »
That would make sense, though they were certainly well off enough to pay for their own fares. One of their other brothers emigrated to the USA in the same year, ending up in Kentucky, becoming a Merchant. Quite the travellers!
Belt in Hull,Yorkshire
Neave in Norfolk
Chant,Winton in London
Mayall in Oldham
Hughes in Cheshire
James in Wales
Russell in Pevensey
Tester in Buxted
Stuart in Roxburgh,Scotland
Higo in Ireland
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Re: Charles Robert EAGLES
« Reply #16 on: Friday 02 September 22 02:04 BST (UK) »
. I can't find where Charles two children, Rosa and Isabella are buried though. :(

The death certificates of the children will list where buried.

As they died at Heathcote, I would suggest you contact the secretary of Heathcote Cemetery Trust.
you can google the contact details. Only email or post.
 
There is not a headstone.

Sue
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Re: Charles Robert EAGLES
« Reply #17 on: Friday 02 September 22 10:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sue, will get on to them.
I finally purchased Charles' marriage and death certificates last night.

Charles and Henrietta married on the 19th April so not long before the dissolution of the partnership. He is a Wine and Spirit Merchant. They residence is South Yarra. They married in St Pauls Church and his brother Henry was one of the witnesses.

His death certificate says he died of Debility Exhaustion for 1 month, so nothing concrete. Has the childrens names on there with Rosa and Isabella already being deceased written by their names :(

His profession is Civil Service though so maybe thats another avenue I need to find a bit more about.

Have to say though I have been very impressed with the detail you get on Australian certificates. :)
Belt in Hull,Yorkshire
Neave in Norfolk
Chant,Winton in London
Mayall in Oldham
Hughes in Cheshire
James in Wales
Russell in Pevensey
Tester in Buxted
Stuart in Roxburgh,Scotland
Higo in Ireland
All census look-ups are crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk