Charles Robert EAGLES

[kellogs]

Marriage Cert.

When and where married - 19th APRIL 1854, ST PAULS CHURCH

Name and surname of the parties - CHARLES ROBERT EAGLES, HENRIETTA VAIL

Widow or widower - BATCHELOR, SPINSTER

Birthplace - TUNBRIDGE, KENT, WANDSWORTH

Rank or profession - WINE AND SPIRIT MERCHANT

Ages - BOTH 21

Residence - BOTH SOUTH YARRA

Usual - YES

Parents names - WILLIAM BARNFATHER EAGLES, MARIANNE CRISPE, THOMAS KNIGHT VAIL, MARY ANN BECK

Parents rank or profession - GENTLEMAN, CHEESEMONGER

BOTH SIGNED THEIR NAMES

Witnesses - HENRY FREDERICK EAGLES
                  MARY ANN VAIL
                  WALTER ? (will try and work out how to post this surname

[sparrett]

If you have not already done so-

Look at "Type here to search" extreme left corner of your computer screen.
Type snipping tool.
This is very easy to use.

Open your problem document and use the tool to frame (ie snip round) the text in question.

Choose the save to files option across the top of snip screen. click.

Go to files and see it filed as 'capture' which you rename as whatever.

It is now ready for you to attach to your post on R'chat by using attachments and other options which you can see on your reply window.

Hope this helps.

Sue

 

[kellogs]

Hi Sue

Have tried and tried to add my clipped image to this post but it just will not so I've given up with it! Technology is not my friend today

[sparrett]

It certainly can be frustrating. but if you have saved it in your computer files as JPEG it should attach when you click choose file (which opens for you to browse your own files) find and choose it
A small quirk is that it does not appear n the window your typing in, only after you press post.



But

Anyhow....Do you need details of Henrietta's arrival in Australia etc.  ?

[kellogs]

 Hi Sue
I have Henrietta and her sister's passenger list, thank you. I will see if I can find out what happened to her sister Mary Ann though.

Another try at attaching the snippet

[shanreagh]

It looks like Palmer to me.

[sparrett]

If it is PALMER, then maybe this is the association.. This one was a wine and spirit merchant like the Eagle Bros.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/7139522

Sue

[sparrett]

Hi 


I know that he arrives in Melbourne, Australia on the 19th October 1852, travelling on the 'City of Poonah', along with his brother Henry Frederick EAGLES. Under the column 'Profession or calling', Charles puts 'Miner' and Henry, 'Farmer'.
In 1854 he married Henrietta Diana VAIL in Victoria.

Their first son Charles Walter EAGLES is born in 1855 in Wakapuaka, Nelson, New Zealand.
I next find him on a Jury List, dated 1856 in Nelson, New Zealand. Occupation 'Gentleman'.
The family return to Victoria in August 1856 on the ship 'Sea Serpent'.

Hi Sue
I have Henrietta and her sister's passenger list, thank you. I will see if I can find out what happened to her sister Mary Ann though.

Another try at attaching the snippet

I think Marian may have married and settled in New Zealand. 
We have a record that one Miss VAIL was traveling with the EAGLES couple.

1856/1510 Marion VAIL to James Lee HODGSON.
 
She died in 1932. Obituary
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/HAWST19320402.2.20

He died much earlier in 1896
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/HNS18960320.2.7

If you have an ancestry sub, you can see some electoral roll entries for her and a headstone picture.

Although the spelling is sometimes Marion, it is usually Marian.
Her advanced age at death is very close to tally with the birthdate of Henrietta's sister  Marrianne

This scenario could tie in well with the EAGLES couple visiting and voting around Nelson NZ at the time of the mid 1850's.  Seeing her well settled and returning to Australia.

Sue

[kellogs]

I agree - Walter Palmer does look like a possible as the other witness.

Sue - you.ve solved what happened to Mary Ann. I was a bit unsure because of the middle name but then I remembered that I hadn't actually located her baptism before now. So using her middle name. Bingo! She was baptised in 1846 in Essex, England. Name: Marianne Elizabeth VAIL!

So she did stay on in New Zealand with her new husband.

Having another look at Henrietta and Marianne's passenger list record I had remembered that Henrietta had said that she was going to work for her cousin Edward, but I can't work out who Marianne is going to work for.

Any ideas?