Samuel Collins

[BIMINI]

I have spent an inordinate amount of time trying to find out how my 2 x great grandfather, Samuel Collins, came to Australia.
From him down, no worries, but as to how he arrived continues to allude me.
I have tried to apply convict record top him, plus asking the UK naval records, the UK Jewry records, etc.
All I know is that he passed away in 1895 said to have been aged 80 and lived in Australia for about 60 years.
I may have used this site previously but, unfortunately, I cannot recall as I have updated computers and my records have become so bulky- bulky without an answer.
Regards
Geoff Collins

[wivenhoe]

What is the earliest evidence you have that Samuel COLLINS existed?

His name on a marriage record?

His name as father on a birth certificate?    What / when / where do you  first  see Samuel COLLINS?.

Can we have something more specific than just "Australia"  please.

[BIMINI]

Thanks for a very prompt reply to my post.
I think the fact that he existed is the same as the fact that I exist.
From all of my research I find that he never officially married but for all of his 8 children , the marriage date is given as 1847 to his "wife" Mary Ann McCrumb ( formerly Chuck from her first marriage in 1847 to Charles Chuck. Her maiden name was McCrumb a child of 2 Irish convicts).
I only have a death registration which gives the details I have given unfortunately.
As for more specific as to "Australia" , I know that he died in Sydney and all of his children were born in Sydney- Woolloomooloo/ Darlinghurst area  to more accurate

[Neale1961]

Have you eliminated Samuel Collins born abt 1816 London (a Jew) who arrived on “Mangles” in 1832.

[BIMINI]

Hello

Thank is one that I have tried numerous avenues to confirm/deny or whatever.
He is shown as being admitted to Darlinghurst Gaol but request on the fate, or anything on the reason, have not produced anything.
There is family folklore from my own family and another relative who I have never met, which says that there is Jewish blood in the line including a rabbi. This was another fact in my own DNA which shows that I have a 7% Jewish link in my heritage.
Would love if someone could give me more information on this possibility thanks Neale1961.

[Neale1961]

A conflicting record has him arriving 1832 onboard “William”.

[wivenhoe]

Using BDM NSW I see these seven births. Is this your family?

716/1857  COLLINS Samuel J parents Samuel / Mary A   @ Sydney

1539/1859 COLLINS Henry A parents Samuel / Mary A   @ Sydney

1028/1862 COLLINS Ann       parents Samuel / Mary A   @ Sydney

6/1865  COLLINS Sydney A    parents Samuel / Mary A   @ Sydney

1588/1867 COLLINS Alfred A  parents Samuel / Mary A   @ Sydney

2710/1869 COLLINS Ernest A parents Samuel / Mary A   @ Sydney

1500/1875 COLLINS Frederick Arthur  Samuel / Mary Ann   @ Sydney

Ancestry Anglican Parish BDM
Surrey Hills Flinders Street St Michaels  born Mar 14 1857  bapt Apr 26 1857
COLLINS Samuel Joseph  parents Samuel, cab owner, Mary Ann    Burke Street

Woolloomooloo East Sydney St Peters born Oct 22 1869  bapt Feb 13 1870
COLLINS Ernest Albert    parents Samuel, coachman, Mary Ann    Stanley Lane

[wivenhoe]

What age do you see recorded for Samuel on the birth certificate of first-born child, what birthplace for Samuel,  and who is the informant?

[maddys52]

You probably have this already - Samuel COLLINS, cabman,"intoxication and furiously driving through the streets of the city" etc in 1855.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article60167166
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article12977242