brickwall help please Roberts from east london

[cazpro77]

hi lady hawk
thank you for this information i appreciate it x

[cazpro77]

hi

i have tried finding James prosser born 1938 have his birth certificate ,but cant find anything after that
i am however searching military records and newspapers, that's my last ideas

regarding Arthur Roberts ,i
 can't anything a few records that don't fit dates wise for example marriage to a lady ,in north east England 1950
both  huge brick walls i don't no how to proceed

so far myself, and had help we have been through decades ,alternative spellings,written to those with prosser or Roberts surnames on several family history sites,plus social media sites,

could i ask please,for ideas or suggestions
many thanks for reading and any help x

[cazpro77]

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w have both my aunts birth cert says James prosser as father 1940
my dads birth cert says Arthur prosser as father 1949
i have checked for any siblings cos my aunt age 9 years older,we wondered if any othet kids born in the 9 year gap we searched
couldn't find any 

we welcome any ideas or suggestions
thanks for reading this from caz prosser 

[cazpro77]

w have both my aunts birth cert says James prosser as father 1940
my dads birth cert says Arthur prosser as father 1949
i have checked for any siblings cos my aunt age 9 years older,we wondered if any othet kids born in the 9 year gap we searched
couldn't find any

we welcome any ideas or suggestions
thanks for reading this from caz prosser

[cazpro77]

hi      i'm still trying to find info on Arthur Roberts /Arthur prosser
i contacted people on here and social media and emails etc searched for years and
no new information

thank you for reading and your suggestions on where and what to do next
from caz

[jonwarrn]

Hi Caz
Sorry we haven't been able to help further.
There are a few problems.
One is we can't identify Arthur Roberts, not even with the date of birth he gave in 1939. He should be on the 1901 census, about 5 days old? Possibly unnamed, but obviously male!
Or else he gave the wrong year.

Two is there is no sign after his appearance in 1939 (in fact that is his only sighting!)
He is not on the electoral registers with Mary after the war. So was he still around? Was Arthur really the father of the son that Mary had? Occupation of the father (allegedly still Prosser!) has changed. Arthur was a carman in 1939 (changing from that is OK), but to fishmonger?

Have you got anywhere with Harry Freeman, who Mary seems to have moved in with around 1949? Then after a couple of years Harry vanishes as well.
John

[cazpro77]

hi john
many thanks for your replies

could Arthur prosser be Arthur Roberts noted  name down wrong ?
on my dads birth cert says Arthur prosser father fishmonger 1949

i have never found a marriage between Arthur Roberts or Arthur prosser to Mary my Nan
 
should i search harry freeman ? but have no information on him so no date of birth 

thank you x

[jonwarrn]

Hi
There was a Harry Freeman living close by, but he seems to be a different person.
So we know even less about Harry than we do about Arthur!
Could he have been the fishmonger?
It is a very difficult problem.

[Ladyhawk]

cazpro77

Have you found James Prosser b1903 on 1921c? He doesn't appear to be with his family.

Have you looked for Arthur Roberts b1901 on the 1921 census?

For example there is this entry  for an Arthur Roberts was he married to Edna
You would need to view the original census for further details

Arthur Roberts 1901 Hackney, London
Edna   Roberts  1902   Tottenham, London
A & E seem to be with Harriet Hancock b1841 Amersham Buckinghamshire
living St Olave, Bermondsey London, Surrey

There was a Harry Freeman living close by, but he seems to be a different person.
So we know even less about Harry than we do about Arthur!
Could he have been the fishmonger?

It is a very difficult problem.

It certainly is jonWw65 

Free index search 1921 census Harry Freeman occ fishmonger but result shows middle name

Harry Charles Freeman b1887 Leyton Essex
Others on transcript
Edith Mary b1887 Islington
Maurice Albert b1911 Leyton Essex
living Merton Croydon

1939 London Electoral Register
Henry Charles, Edith Mary, Maurice Albert & Vera Ellen Freeman
Address 20 Crestbrook Avenue
In 1939 Henry's occ shell fish salesman, he’s with his family as per London Electoral Register

Maurice Freeman Admission Age: 5 Birth 19 Sep 1911
Admission 16 Apr 1917 School:   Peckham Rye School
Residence Poor Law Union:   Whorlton Road
Father:   Henry Freeman