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Re: brickwall help please Roberts from east london
« Reply #18 on: Monday 29 August 22 22:48 BST (UK) »
We have the name Prosser as well as Roberts for Mary in 1939
Plus the date of birth, 2 May 1904, matches the one on the death reg of Mary Prosser in Stepney in 1969.
I guess Caz has any other missing links!

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Re: brickwall help please Roberts from east london
« Reply #19 on: Monday 29 August 22 22:52 BST (UK) »
And the 1940 birth registration in Stepney, mother Aldwinckle.

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Re: brickwall help please Roberts from east london
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 30 August 22 06:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you, am blown away with the replies
Im very grateful,

Mary aldwinkle/prosser was my nan, my father is her son  born to mary 1949
My aunt is mary daughter born 1940

Originally we was looking fpr arthur prosser,but seeing the 1939 registar
Seen arthur roberts

I been told this morning that arthur iis possibly  james prosser (snr) brothers ?
A family member done dna and shared the resuls with me at 6am
Suggesting that ,  arthur roberts was arthur prosser
I dont no x
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Re: brickwall help please Roberts from east london
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 30 August 22 09:40 BST (UK) »

Mary aldwinkle/prosser was my nan, my father is her son  born to mary 1949
My aunt is mary daughter born 1940

Originally we was looking fpr arthur prosser,but seeing the 1939 registar
Seen arthur roberts


I been told this morning that arthur iis possibly  james prosser (snr) brothers ?

A family member done dna and shared the resuls with me at 6am. Suggesting that ,  arthur roberts was arthur prosser


On your father's 1949 birth certificate is his father named as James PROSSER?

Do you know the name of  James PROSSER father/parents? If so, have you checked the censuses to see if James Prosser has a brother named Arthur?

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Re: brickwall help please Roberts from east london
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 30 August 22 10:04 BST (UK) »
Hi yes

We have james snr and junior birth certificates
James snr parents and grand parents
 On my dads cert says arthur prosser fishmonger
On my parents marrige cert says arthur prosser deceased
Thank you, im very grateful for your help
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Re: brickwall help please Roberts from east london
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 30 August 22 11:04 BST (UK) »
On my dads cert says arthur prosser fishmonger

Who registered the birth and what address was given?


We have james snr and junior birth certificates


Sorry lots of questions

On the 1929 m/c for James Prosser, what was his occupation, his address?

Could you name the mother, father's occupation and addresses given on b/c for James Snr./Jnr.?

Maybe a different couple not sure whether this has been posted apologies if I'm duplicating

London Electoral Register years 1930/31/32/34/40
Address 40 Mulberry Street
James & Mary PROSSER
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Re: brickwall help please Roberts from east london
« Reply #24 on: Monday 05 September 22 08:47 BST (UK) »
Hi
I don't mind questions,

On my dads birth cert rothchilds buildings ,informant my nan mary prosser
Father arthur prosser same address fishmonger,

James prosser  snr mc to mary
States  his occupation old rag dealer father fredrick john prosser 7 have look place Bethnal green
Her adresses states 25 rothchilds buildings stepney  2nd april 1929
Witness annie aldwinkle (mary sister ) and robert winston unsure who he was

James prosser son
 father james prosser snr
Mother ethel may prosser nee Thornton 1938
86 laviston rd hackney
Father occupation tailor

Thank u xx

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Re: brickwall help please Roberts from east london
« Reply #25 on: Monday 05 September 22 15:15 BST (UK) »

James prosser  snr mc to mary
States  his occupation old rag dealer
father fredrick john prosser 7 have look place Bethnal green

Her adresses states 25 rothchilds buildings stepney  2nd april 1929
Witness annie aldwinkle (mary sister ) and robert winston unsure who he was

What was Frederick John Prosser's occupation?

The reason I ask is there's a Frederick John Prosser occ cabinet maker living 7 Havelock Place Bethnal Green in 1911 his wife Elizabeth Betsy Prosser but he doesn't marry Elizabeth until 1914  ??? He has a son named Frederick John Prosser born c 1887 occ cabinet maker - edit to add also son named JAMES
1911c https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWGR-BQZ

Frederick John Prosser , widower, occ cabinet maker
Father George, occ chair carver
marries 12 July 1914 Elizabeth Betsy PATER
address 7 Havelock Place

EDIT to add

Frederick John Prosser (SNR's) first marriage 1 August 1885 to Matilda Caroline Critchfield
father George, chair carver

Frederick John Prosser (JNR.) Cabinet maker, 14 Crondall St., 
married 30 Nov 1913 Ellen BOLT father Frederick John Prosser, cabinet maker

Frederick John Prosser
Death 22 Mar 1918 France
Rank:   Private
Regiment:   8th RW Kent
Regimental Number:   3073
Widow Ellen

Frederick John Prosser Age:   27
Birth Place:   Bow, Middlesex, cabinet maker
Military Date:   1914
Regimental Number:   3073
Regiment Name:   Queen's Own (Royal West Kent) Regiment
Number of Images:   37
Form Title:   Short Service Attestation
Personal property send to widow Mrs Ellen Prosser 18 Haberdasher Street, East End
Father of Soldier Frederick John Prosser address 7 Havelock Place
Full Blood siblings
Philip John Prosser age 28, 273A Green Street Bethnal Green
Matilda Prosser age 31, 7 Havelock Place

marriage
Matilda Maud Prosser 36, 7 Havelock Place
father Frederick John Prosser, cabinet maker
married 25 Dec 1924 James Wilkins Taunton

edit to add
PROSSER, MATILDA  MAUD     mmn CRITCHFIELD 
GRO Reference: 1888  S Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 549

PROSSER, FREDERICK  JOHN     mmn CRITCHFIELD 
GRO Reference: 1886  D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 211

Philip John Prosser, soldier, 273A Green St
Father Frederick John, cabinet maker married 5 Sept 1914 Louisa Jane Newton
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Re: brickwall help please Roberts from east london
« Reply #26 on: Monday 05 September 22 16:25 BST (UK) »
for info. you may already have these but just in case you don't here's a list of  baptisms parents named Frederick John Prosser & Elizabeth Betsy

Elizabeth Betsy Proser
Baptism :   22 Apr 1900 St James the Great, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets,
Father:   Frederick John Proser Mother:   Elizabeth Betsy
Gives his occ SHOE maker address 4 Mace St

PROSSER, ELIZABETH  BETSY     mmn PATER 
GRO Reference: 1900  J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 206

Henry Francis Prosser
Birth 15th Aug
Baptism 25 Aug 1901 St James the Great, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets,
Father:   Frederick John Prosser Mother:   Elizabeth Betsy
Occ cabinet maker address 4 Mace St

JAMES Prosser
Birth 17th Sept.
Baptism    11 Oct 1903 St James the Great, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets,
Father:   Frederick John Prosser Mother:   Elizabeth Betsy
Occ cabinet maker address 4 Mace St

PROSSER, JAMES       mmn PATER 
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 202

Beatrice May Prosser
Birth 16 Jul 1909
Baptism 22 Aug 1909 St James the Less, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets,
Father:   Frederick John Prosser Mother:   Elizabeth Betsy
Occ cabinet maker , address 7 Havelock Place

Rosina Florence Prosser
Birth 5 Jan 1911
Baptism 5 Feb 1911 St James the Less, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets,
Father:   Frederick John Prosser Mother:   Elizabeth Betsy
Occ cabinet maker address 7 Havelock Place


Ada Jessie Prosser

Birth 10 Nov 1912
Baptism 1 Dec 1912 St James the Less, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets,
Father:   Frederick John Prosser Mother:   Elizabeth Betsy
Occ cabinet maker address 7 Havelock Place

William James Prosser
Birth 31 Aug 1914
Baptism    27 Nov 1914 St James the Less, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets,
Father:   Frederick John Prosser Mother:   Elizabeth Betsy
Occ cabinet maker address 7 Havelock Place

Elizabeth Prosser Age:   7
Birth 2 Apr 1900
Admission 26 Aug 1907
School:   Cranbrook Road School
No father’s name given address 7 Havelock Place

Eleanor Beatrice Prosser
Birth16 Nov
Baptism 23 Dec 1917 St James the Less, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets,
Father:   Frederick John Prosser Mother:   Elizabeth Betsy
Occ cabinet maker address 7 Havelock Place

1929 Electoral Register
Address 7 Havelock Place
Elizabeth Betsy Prosser
Frederick John Prosser
Henry Francis Prosser
James Prosser
Robert John Prosser
Mary FERN

1901 census Piece:   292 Folio:   59 Page number:   48
4 Mace Street Bethnal Green
Frederick J Prosser 36 Shoreditch cabinet maker
Elizabeth B Prosser wife 25
Frederick J son 14 Bethnal Green, errand boy
Matilda M 12 Bow
Philip G 10 Bethnal Green
George T 2 Bethnal Green
Elizabeth B 1 Bethnal Green



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