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Re: William Willis
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 20 August 22 17:28 BST (UK) »
Marriage
1st January 1900 Tiverton
William Willis 24 bachelor labourer Leat Street Mark Willis labourer
Mary Hannah Sully 24 spinster Leat Street James Sully labourer
witnesses William Sully and Lucy Veals

Tiverton Gazette (Mid-Devon Gazette) 6th March 1900 has a report of the inquest into her sudden death.

1921 census Fanny Willis (widowed) is in Tiverton with several children. William Willis is in Garstang with Frank and Kate Fisher.

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Re: William Willis
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 20 August 22 17:32 BST (UK) »
So have I got this correct -   his father is Mark?

I recall dismissing a Mark earlier.
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Re: William Willis
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 20 August 22 17:35 BST (UK) »
I think Mark was the father of William b 1874

Was William born 1896 the child of Mary Hannah Sully re 1900 marriage ??

 SULLY, WILLIAM        -     
GRO Ref: 1896  D Quarter in TIVERTON  Volume 05B  Page 410

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Re: William Willis
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 20 August 22 17:36 BST (UK) »
Definitely says Mark on MC



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Re: William Willis
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 20 August 22 18:24 BST (UK) »
Deaths of William Willis & Ella his wife

William Willis
22 Aug 1896   Apr 1977   Apr-May-Jun   Watford   Hertfordshire
as perdob in 1939.

Ella J Willis
abt 1896   Oct 1962   Oct-Nov-Dec   Watford   Hertfordshire

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Re: William Willis
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 21 August 22 00:30 BST (UK) »
Summing up everyone's contributions:

The William Willis who married Ella Jenkinson in 1923 was born 22 Aug 1896 in Tiverton and gave his father as William Willis.

The William John Willis who was registered in Tiverton in 1896 died shortly after and so cannot be him.

In the 1901 census William junior is with Thomas Fouracre and his wife Jane, described as grandson. in 1911 he is with his father William (born Cullompton about 1875) who has a wife Fanny but they've only been married 4 years so she is not his mother. In 1821 he is in Garstang.

A William Sully was born in 1896 in Tiverton to an unmarried Mary Hannah Sully, who later (1900) married a William Willis who gave his father as Mark. Mary died soon after the wedding. There was a William Willis born in Cullompton in 1875, parents Mark and Jane (nee Hawkins). This seems to be the same Jane who was married to Thomas Fouracre by 1901. So it seems very likely that William Sully took his stepfather's name and became the William Willis we're looking for. Who his biological father was is a different matter.

Mark and Jane Willis also had children Annie, James and Tom all baptised at Cullompton, though somehow James was born in America. Jane's maiden name was Hawkins. She married Mark Willis in the Tiverton district in 1867. I cannot see them in 1871, presumably they were in America. By 1881 she was widowed, living with her children in Cullumpton. . Next door were a William and Mary Willis and in 1861 William and Mary had a son Mark, aged 20, with them, so they are probably her in-laws. She later married a James King but by 1891 was widowed again, Several Willis and King children are with her in that census but not William (1875). He appears to be working on the farm of a Charles Potter. She then married Thomas Fouracre. In the 1901 census her son James (born America) and grandson William are with Thomas and her, described as son-in-law and grandson. Son-in-law presumably means stepson (although James is a widower so perhaps he married a Fouracre daughter who died).

To check the William Sully theory I would suggest getting that birth certificate. If the birth date is 22 Aug 1896 that would confirm he became William Willis (who has that date on the 1939 register).

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Re: William Willis
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 21 August 22 01:11 BST (UK) »

To check the William Sully theory I would suggest getting that birth certificate. If the birth date is 22 Aug 1896 that would confirm he became William Willis (who has that date on the 1939 register).

David

I completely agree - would suggest that William Willis senior was indeed the natural father as I doubt very much that his mother - now Jane Fouracres - would claim young William (born Sully) as her grandson and with surname as Willis, if his father had been someone else as he'd not have been   related to the Willis family at all.

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Re: William Willis
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 21 August 22 08:21 BST (UK) »
Summed up exactly  :)

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Re: William Willis
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 21 August 22 10:13 BST (UK) »
Being devil's advocate ~

The only way to confirm/deny the theory that William jnr is the son of William snr, is for one of the descendants  of William jnr to get a DNA test and see if there is a match to the Willis family.

Relationships on Census forms are not always accurate.

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