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Michael Dacey "Dowlais, Methyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
« on: Thursday 18 August 22 05:21 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have the 1881 - 1911 Wales Census for Michael Dacey residence Dowlais, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales. I am hoping to learn more about his occupation the census show;

1881 Wales Census   Iron Filler
1891 Wales Census   Iron Worker
1901 Wales Census   loading ore?  Iron Worker? it's difficult to make out the exact wording
19011 Wales Census Laborer is all it says
 
I am wondering if it's possible to learn what iron foundry he was working for during the period 1881 - 1901? Laborer could be anything, so I don't expect to learn anymore, but if I could put a name to the foundry that would be great!

Thanks in advance!   Maria

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Re: Michael Dacey "Dowlais, Methyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 August 22 09:45 BST (UK) »
This map might be of use  :-\

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102182502
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Re: Michael Dacey "Dowlais, Methyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 August 22 16:21 BST (UK) »
Hi  hope this helps
The village of Dowlais (  Black Brook)  developed around the Dowlais ironworks  under the management  of  Josiah John Guest   it developed to become the largest ironworks in the world with the workforce of 5000 in the 1840`s.  This iron company   imported  iron ore from  Spain
One of the following generations

After R.T. Crawshay's death, his sons reopened the works,but soon closed again for a long and costly rebuild that was not complete until 1884, while a steel works was constructed. Crawshay Brothers, Cyfarthfa, Limited continued the business until 1902, when the works were sold to Guest Keen and Nettlefolds Limited, the proprietors of the Dowlais Ironworks.

By 1910, the steelworks had been forced to close again, and while it was briefly reopened in 1915 to aid in the production of materials for World War I, the works closed for the last time in 1919. It fell into disrepair until it was dismantled in 1928. The failure of the works was a devastating blow to the local community, as it had depended heavily on the works for its economic livelihood.

Guest Keen and Nettlefolds was transfered to Cardiff it later was known as Allied Steel and Wire I was employed as an industrial nurse there before its closure
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Re: Michael Dacey "Dowlais, Methyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 August 22 18:49 BST (UK) »
Re. the 1901 census and Occupation/Profession is the first word "Unloading ..."?


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Re: Michael Dacey "Dowlais, Methyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 August 22 18:54 BST (UK) »
Looks like "Unloading Coal" and "Above" overwrites the original?

Correction - went straight to original and deduced "Unloading coal" only to go to transcript and find it had already been transcribed as "Uloading coal!".

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Re: Michael Dacey "Dowlais, Methyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 August 22 21:37 BST (UK) »
Don't know if you are aware but a very good site and forum for old Merthyr Tydfil. The link covers the history of Dowlais ironworks, lots more info regarding Merthyr on the site.

http://www.alangeorge.co.uk/Dowlais_Ironworks.htm

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Re: Michael Dacey "Dowlais, Methyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 August 22 21:38 BST (UK) »
This map might be of use  :-\

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102182502

Thank you for the map of Dowlais area, took a quick look at it, but will do a more in depth study of it!

Maria

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Re: Michael Dacey "Dowlais, Methyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 August 22 21:39 BST (UK) »
Hi  hope this helps
The village of Dowlais (  Black Brook)  developed around the Dowlais ironworks  under the management  of  Josiah John Guest   it developed to become the largest ironworks in the world with the workforce of 5000 in the 1840`s.  This iron company   imported  iron ore from  Spain
One of the following generations

After R.T. Crawshay's death, his sons reopened the works,but soon closed again for a long and costly rebuild that was not complete until 1884, while a steel works was constructed. Crawshay Brothers, Cyfarthfa, Limited continued the business until 1902, when the works were sold to Guest Keen and Nettlefolds Limited, the proprietors of the Dowlais Ironworks.

By 1910, the steelworks had been forced to close again, and while it was briefly reopened in 1915 to aid in the production of materials for World War I, the works closed for the last time in 1919. It fell into disrepair until it was dismantled in 1928. The failure of the works was a devastating blow to the local community, as it had depended heavily on the works for its economic livelihood.

Guest Keen and Nettlefolds was transfered to Cardiff it later was known as Allied Steel and Wire I was employed as an industrial nurse there before its closure
Heddwch

Thank you!! This is very helpful!  Maria

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Re: Michael Dacey "Dowlais, Methyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 August 22 21:40 BST (UK) »
Don't know if you are aware but a very good site and forum for old Merthyr Tydfil. The link covers the history of Dowlais ironworks, lots more info regarding Merthyr on the site.

http://www.alangeorge.co.uk/Dowlais_Ironworks.htm

Cas

Thank you will take a look at the link!   Maria