trying to trace the mother of Eliza Eddy 1861 - 1936

[SummerCrush]

By 1867 Albert was gone and Sarah was in a relationship with Henry COLEMAN.  I think it is a case of the children not knowing the name of their father.

COLEMAN, HENRY  EDDY
Mother's maiden surname: CHAPEL     
GRO Reference: 1867  D Quarter in BRISTOL  Volume 06A  Page 10

Debra 

well definitely on the marriage certificate for Alfred John Norris and Eliza Eddy the father listed for Eliza is Thomas Eddy{Labourer}. Alfred's father is listed as ''Richard John Norris'' who is classed as Deceased on their wedding certificate.

I believe Alfred's father married a woman called Jane Baber.

[SummerCrush]

There is this death

December 1877 Bristol
Thomas Eddy 44 yrs born abt 1833

This fits with the age of Albert in 1861.
I can’t see a death for Albert.

The surname Eddy is popular in Cornwall which may be where that idea comes from. However Albert (who may be Thomas) was born Bath.

there are 4 deaths for an Albert Eddy in Bristol ...

Albert Eddy 1903 - 1922
Albert E Eddy 1886 - 1945
Albert Henry 1923 - 1981
Albert George {don't know what year he was born but he died in 2015}

[heywood]

It may be that they registered the birth twice for some reason.

[heywood]

There is this death

December 1877 Bristol
Thomas Eddy 44 yrs born abt 1833

This fits with the age of Albert in 1861.
I can’t see a death for Albert.

The surname Eddy is popular in Cornwall which may be where that idea comes from. However Albert (who may be Thomas) was born Bath.

there are 4 deaths for an Albert Eddy in Bristol ...

Albert Eddy 1903 - 1922
Albert E Eddy 1886 - 1945
Albert Henry 1923 - 1981
Albert George {don't know what year he was born but he died in 2015}

But none of those fit with Albert born abt 1833.

[wivenhoe]

I think this is Sarah, and born Ireland in Census

1859 Alfred CANTLE marr. Sarah POOLE   Clifton St Andrew Gloucestershire.

Son Alfred CANTLE bapt 26 Aug 1860, father moulder. Parish Register Clifton St Andrew

[heywood]

I think this is Sarah, and born Ireland in Census

1859 Alfred CANTLE marr. Sarah POOLE   Clifton St Andrew Gloucestershire.

Son Alfred CANTLE bapt 26 Aug 1860, father moulder. Parish Register Clifton St Andrew

Do you mean Sarah Hannah Eddy?
She is in 1861 with Albert Eddy and is documented as Sarah Hannah Chapple b Ilfracombe in earlier censuses.

[SummerCrush]

GRO births
NORRIS, Eliza                 mms.     EDDY 
1890  SepQ           Bedminster   Vol 05C  Page 663

NORRIS, Alfred John          mms  EDDY 
1893  JunQ            Bedminster  Vol 05C  Page 691

NORRIS, Herbert John     mms     EDDY 
1904  MarQ           Bristol          Vol 06A  Page 28

GRO death
NORRIS, Alfred John    age     0 
1894  MarQ            Bedminster  Vol 05C  Page 556

Is this your family?

Ancestry England  Census 1891   @ 5 Myrtle Street Bedminster
NORRIS Alfred John     25y    coal miner           b. Bedminster  Somerset
NORRIS Eliza              30y                              b. Holwell Clifton, Gloucestershire,
NORRIS Eliza                8m   dau.                    b. Bedminster Somerset
NORRIS Eliza               21y   sister laundress    b. Bedminster Somerset

Ancestry England Census 1901     @     35 Gladstone St Bedminster Bristol
NORRIS A                   35y  coal miner hewer    b. Bedminster Bristol
NORRIS Eliza               40y                              b. Bedminster Bristol
NORRIS Eliza              10y    dau                      b. Bedminster Bristol


Ancestry England Census 1911     @ 24 Braunton Road Bedminster Bristol Gloucestershire
NORRIS Alfred John       46y  engineman below ground        b. Bristol
NORRIS Eliza                 50y                                              b. Bristol
NORRIS Eliza                 20y    cigarette packer                   b. Bristol
NORRIS Herbert John       7y    school                                 b. Bristol
HAYMAN Herbert John    33y     boarder  single                    b  Sth Molton N.Devon
 

Ancestry Bristol England Non-conformist Baptism  Weslyan British Road Ebernezer
NORRIS Herbert John  born 17 Jan 1904  bapt. 11 Feb 1904
parents Alfred John & Eliza         35 Gladstone St Bedminster

I suspect that there is easy use of "ditto", so birthplace for Eliza, 1891, Holwell Clifton, Gloucestershire, might be useful in locating other EDDYs.

such a shame 35 Gladstone Bedminster doesn't exist anymore.
5 Myrtle Street Bedminster still exists
24 Braunton Road{not Braunton Street} still exists

Herbert John Norris{1904} is my Dad's fathers father if that makes sense

[heywood]

It looks as though Albert and Thomas are the same person.
He may have preferred Thomas as a name or changed it for some reason. Sometimes names were changed after a police incident or similar.

[SummerCrush]

It looks as though Albert and Thomas are the same person.
He may have preferred Thomas as a name or changed it for some reason. Sometimes names were changed after a police incident or similar.

according to all the Civil Birth Records on FindMyPast website all the Albert Eddy's that were from Bristol were all born between 1886 - 1923 {which was after after Sarah and Thomas Eddy daughter Eliza was born in 1861 and yet the first Albert Eddy was born 2 years before Sarah and Thomas's daughter Eliza Eddy got married to Alfred John Norris in 1888}

so it would make it pretty hard for Albert and Thomas Eddy to be the same people.

I also know Eliza Sarah and Thomas Daughter's birth year is correct with being 1861 as according to 1911 census it states she is 50 years of age which 1861 - 1911 makes the birth correct.