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« Reply #18 on: Sunday 14 August 22 08:26 BST (UK) »
There are trees for Clark/Simpson but as they were Scotland, I thought I would wait for the Irish ones that Stanwix had found.

The names William Richard and James Christopher don’t fit easily, particularly when there is that WR birth and J C marriage.

William son of Clark/Simpson is in 1901 3449/122/43 with his mother Elizabeth and possibly marries in 1905.
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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 14 August 22 10:59 BST (UK) »
The birthdate of William in 1939 is 1875.

It fits with the birth of that William Richard in 1875 with mmn Welsh and I was quite hopeful until I saw the burial of William Richard Clarke aged 3 yrs in 1878. :-\
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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 14 August 22 13:18 BST (UK) »
Quote from: heywood on Sunday 14 August 22 08:26 BST (UK)
There are trees for Clark/Simpson but as they were Scotland, I thought I would wait for the Irish ones that Stanwix had found.


Sorry that was my fault. I thought I had found something, because I thought the marriage banns read 'painter' not 'mariner'. When I realised I had that wrong, my Irish connection fell apart, because that person had 'painter' as their profession.
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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 14 August 22 13:27 BST (UK) »
Difficult isn’t it.

I have tried to look through 1875 Irish births here but couldn’t see anything
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William could be illegitimate and have invented a father, perhaps.
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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 14 August 22 13:52 BST (UK) »
With what has so far been discovered, would the wife of JAMES CLARK, ELIZA (ELIZABETH) have the maiden name PRICE or WELSH?

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« Reply #23 on: Sunday 14 August 22 13:55 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage to Eliza Price but, if I recall it is after the birthdate of William.

I think William Richard with mother Welsh died in 1878 - I posted earlier.
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« Reply #24 on: Sunday 14 August 22 14:48 BST (UK) »
Has anyone been able to find a baptism for Anne Cook? Just as part of trying to backfill info?

I haven't. The closest one I have been able to find is a Julia Ann Cook, baptised 25th August 1878 in Liverpool, father James Cook, mother Julia. Father's profession, Joiner.

I wonder if she was just known as Ann, due to her mother's name being Julia?
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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 14 August 22 15:15 BST (UK) »
I'm wondering if this is Eliza Price on the 1871 census.

Age 30
Single
Born in Ireland
Lodger
Living with a family who seem to have a tailoring business. Also has an illegitimate son called James Price, born 1865. 1864 according to baptism record.

ED, institution, or vessel   28
Household schedule number   20
Piece   3798
Folio   108
Page number   4
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« Reply #26 on: Sunday 14 August 22 15:26 BST (UK) »
I think I have accidentally found James Christopher's first marriage.  He is just James, a mariner, father James a surveyor.  He married Maria HAY in Liverpool in 1869, batchelor and spinster, both of Brook Street, both full age, her father is James HAY, a shoemaker.  Witnesses are John EAGAN? and Catherine KEHOE.  James signed his name this time.

This child appears to be theirs...

CLARKE, JAMES
Mother's maiden surname: HAY     
GRO Reference: 1869  J Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 112

He was baptised at St Mary's Catholic Church, Liverpool, and mother's surname is recorded as HAYES.

I was wondering if William was Eliza's child and he used the CLARKE surname.

Debra  :)
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