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« on: Tuesday 09 August 22 12:04 BST (UK) »
I'd be grateful if someone could try and help me understand something.

My grand-mother was born in 1908 "illegitimate" with no father named on her birth certificate, marriage certificate and death certificate. I can understand that.

However, in 1908, her mother (my great -granny) gave her new baby the surname of her "paramour" she was living with. They never married. Her mother had left her husband in 1896.

I find it strange that the baby born in 1908 took the paramour's surname and not the mother's married or maiden names. Any experienced researchers got any thoughts about this? Thank you.

I haven't mentioned any names because I don't need any searching done at this time.

thanks all.

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 12:11 BST (UK) »

However, in 1908, her mother (my great -granny) gave her new baby the surname of her "paramour" she was living with. They never married. Her mother had left her husband in 1896.

I find it strange that the baby born in 1908 took the paramour's surname and not the mother's married or maiden names. Any experienced researchers got any thoughts about this? Thank you.


In England/Wales birth registers dont give any surname for the child (until 1969) .... the surname you see in the index is that of the mother and/or father depending on who is named on the entry and their marital status.

Have you a certificate for the entry ?


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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 12:38 BST (UK) »
Hi thanks for reply. Yes I have seen all three SCOTTISH certificates mentioned earlier in my post.

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 12:43 BST (UK) »
Then ignore the above !

Scottish registration has different rules and regs.


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 13:04 BST (UK) »


The certificates from Scotland just confirm the fact a father is not named on any of them.

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 16:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your reply Antony.

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 19:40 BST (UK) »
My grand-mother was born in 1908 "illegitimate" with no father named on her birth certificate

her mother (my great -granny) gave her new baby the surname of her "paramour" she was living with. They never married. Her mother had left her husband in 1896.

I find it strange that the baby born in 1908 took the paramour's surname and not the mother's married or maiden names.
What name did your g g/m give on the 1908 BC...
Did she give her married surname, her maiden surname, her partners' surname or all 3?

How exactly was her name written on that BC (feel free to use any name(s) to show the example) & have you checked the index to see if your g/m is recorded under any other surname(s) other than the one you refer to?

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 19:50 BST (UK) »
hello
on the 1908 birth cert the mother gave her mother's partner's surname. She is only recorded under the one surname

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 19:55 BST (UK) »
sorry the baby's first name and middle name on 1908 is the g/gndm partner's mother name. still with me?