Master Brushmaker family in Taunton (Creech St Michael)

[JSHD2011]

Many thanks Jim1,

I think they are brothers.   The Edwardian one must be the older brother born 1819 because he outlived the younger brother (my 2nd G Grandfather David John Davis; Master Brushmaker who died in 1889 of bronchitis) because he didn't die until 1905.  The lady he is with is obviously a Widow and I think it is her children behind the seated man who is the older and longer lived brother James Davis jnr.   We, mainly I think they are the sons of the elderly gentleman (James snr b. 1795) dressed for business with the younger (much he was 55 and she was 48 when they married) seated lady clutching a bible I think because James must of died shortly after the photograph was taken in 1859 or 60.

If I could have another go it would be to ask if there is anyway of telling whether a photo was taken in Australia.   We, I think the attached photo may be James Davis jnrs son Edward Davis who married Jane Fry in Victoria Australia.

I imagine it must have been quite warm under those lights especially in Victoria Australia.

NB/ Might the addition of colour as with the 1870s card stock one indicate that it was near the 1880s?

[jim1]

The lady he is with is obviously a Widow

Not sure how you came to that conclusion.

seated lady clutching a bible I think because James must of died shortly after the photograph was taken in 1859 or 60

This is dated mid-late 70's.
The last one is also 1870's.
You would need to see the photographer details on the back to know where it was taken.

[JSHD2011]

Thanks again,

The daughter we believe is Florence Fry Davis. Florence was born in Melbourne c. 1867

[jim1]

Did they have another child early/mid 70's as she looks like
she's expecting.

[JSHD2011]

Non that we are aware of.   We haven't found any others yet if it is indeed them.

[jim1]

She might have miscarried I suppose as you say if it's them.
The child looks about 4 so 1871/2 looks about right.

[JSHD2011]

Thank you very much for your helps jim1, you've been very kind.   I am holding out in hope that it is the Australian one and am thinking of getting the photo forensically examined or something.   There are a number of other people that it could be and we would have to get other photos dated to get a clearer picture.    However, the dating is ideal for Edward, Jane and Florence more so than any of the others.  Florence married Arthur Malin and we think they moved to New South Wales.    There is a twist to the tail which is that the standing gentleman next to the seated lady in the what could be an 1860 photo had a sister Jane Davis who was sentenced to death for 'Highway Robbery' she stole a £30 pound note and a £5 pound note and some loose change from a bank clerk on 'The Highway' in London Dockland c. 1823 she spent two years in prison and her sentence was commuted to life in Van Dieman's Land (Tasmania).   She had children although no marriages that we can find and left a legacy who we think went to New South Wales.  We haven't fully joined up the dots yet.   The dates of the photos have helped a lot and it means a lot to us.  Thanks again.

[jim1]

You need the original as the info you need is on the back.

[JSHD2011]

OK; i'll pass that on to the keeper of the photos Cath Davis in Cardiff my cousin and holder of the best photos.   Some of them have had paper put over them which have then been written on.   I suppose if she were able to take that off she might find the info.