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Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« Reply #171 on: Monday 15 August 22 11:00 BST (UK) »
Link gives an Error message.

Also with it being a USA site, Roots Chatters in say the UK would need a Worldwide subscription to view .com records, our UK is ancestry.co.uk and has lower subs

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Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« Reply #172 on: Monday 15 August 22 16:20 BST (UK) »

 Who are the families you have found in Ireland?  Have you separately traced them back ie done their family trees for them?


That's an important point. Are you confident that their trees are 100% accurate?

I think that the only specific piece of information about John is that he was from Maryborough or somewhere near. The place "Ballynorman" may have been his townland or a village.
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Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« Reply #173 on: Monday 15 August 22 16:29 BST (UK) »
I was on Ancestry last night digging around under DNA.  It gave John's approximate location between Loughrea (Co Galway) and Banagher (Co. Offlay).  It did not give an exact location.  Bridget was in the same area.
I still haven't paid Ancestry but they are letting me see certain things.  99% was from my mothers side.
All of my messages are useless in regards to the Welch side.
Gedmatch did not used to have so many names hidden, but they do now.  And most of the close matches are relatives here in the states.

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Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« Reply #174 on: Monday 15 August 22 19:56 BST (UK) »
I'm still trying. I was looking at the Ireland, Catholic Pari a h Registers. National Library of Ireland. Page 121 of 185 shows January  4, 1841 baptism . 
Portalaise, Maryborough

Same link shows page 136 of 185,  January2, 1843 Catherine baptism, daughter of John Welch and Bridget Hennessy.. Can anyone read that location?

Again, same link shows p 151 of 185. March 2, 1845 Mary, daughter of John Welch and Bridget Hennessy

Again, p.161 of 185 shows October 11, 1846 baptism for John of John Welch/Bridget Hennessy.


Check out this record I found on the Ancestry mobile app
https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/29853012?h=871b89

The image showing baptisms Feb-March 1845 isn't from Marybprough. It's from Kildorrery parish, County Cork, Cloyne R.C. diocese. It's next to Limerick border.
Kildorrery R.C. parish https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0065
Microfilm 04994/06
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634240#page/151/mode/1up
Baptism 2nd March 1845 Mary of John Walsh & Bridget Hennessy, Bally_undane
Sponsors Patrick Hennessy, Ellen Hannan
Thanks to heywood for locating correct register.

Added. All 4 Walsh baptisms posted by Lilli were in Kildorrery parish.
6th January 1841 James. Sponsors Pat Murphy, Mary Coughlan
2nd January 1843 Catherine. Sponsors James Walsh, Mary Duane
11th October 1846 John. Sponsors Robert & Ellen Walsh
Parents John Walsh & Bridget Hennessy. Residence Ballysurdane?
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Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« Reply #175 on: Monday 15 August 22 20:09 BST (UK) »
"FAMILY SEARCH" is free.  They may want you to just sign up and make a password.
This looks right for Bridget:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LWY8-78F

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Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« Reply #176 on: Monday 15 August 22 20:10 BST (UK) »
You will have to scroll down to get the real picture!

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Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« Reply #177 on: Monday 15 August 22 20:25 BST (UK) »

 It's from Kildorrery parish, County Cork, Cloyne R.C. diocese. It's next to Limerick border.
Kildorrery R.C. parish https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0065
Microfilm 04994/06

Added. All 4 Walsh baptisms posted by Lilli were in Kildorrery parish.
6th January 1841 James. Sponsors Pat Murphy, Mary Coughlan
2nd January 1843 Catherine. Sponsors James Walsh, Mary Duane
11th October 1846 John. Sponsors Robert & Ellen Walsh
Parents John Walsh & Bridget Hennessy. Residence Ballysurdane?


Ballyshurdane is in Templemolaga civil parish. (Link to "Irish Ancestors" at foot of parish page then click "placenames connected with this parish". Short list of civil parishes. Check each in turn for townlands.)
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Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« Reply #178 on: Monday 15 August 22 21:14 BST (UK) »
"FAMILY SEARCH" is free.  They may want you to just sign up and make a password.
This looks right for Bridget:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LWY8-78F


Do you mean Bridget Burke Hennessy 1830-1894? Shanreagh followed a Hennessy-Burke connection, replies 135-7.
Some mistakes in that Timothy Hennessy profile are easy to spot:
Timothy Hennessy 1826-1888 (born Tipperary, died Illinois.) The one born in 1826 was too young to be married and starting a family by 1838. Timothy born 1810 was more likely to have been the man who married Alice and the father of Bridget (1838). More info my replies 165 & 139.
Laurence 1862-1937 is down among children of Thomas Hennessy & Bridget Cleary. Either his dates are wrong or he's from a different generation. He was born 21 years after his mother's death.  ???
Considering those errors, I'd be cautious regarding information about Bridget Burke Hennessy on that tree.   
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Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« Reply #179 on: Monday 15 August 22 21:29 BST (UK) »
Ancestry now has a world map of my DNA matches.  There are none in Ireland now.  But there are five in Great Britain.  Very distant.  I messaged a 'Stephen Walsh' in Britain, but I see I had written to him before and he replied.  However he has deleted his replies.
I have messaged him again!
Yes, that Hennessy bunch is so confusing.  That too is a mess!