DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL

[Maiden Stone]

This may be the family in 1860?
However this family has a female child born in Ireland? Ebby or Abby? or Eddy?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M82J-RGK

Has there been a search for a baptism of Ebby/Abby/Eddy in Ireland? It's more likely that a baptism register from 1850s might exist than from1820s. If we could find out where that child was born it would provide a starting point in Ireland. Did that child survive to adulthood?

A suggestion for other contributors. Since DNA hasn't advanced the quest for John Walsh, would this topic get attention from more people if it was on a different board? Although I don't know which board would be most suitable as the topic straddles U.S.A., Ireland, emigration. It might also help if the title was more specific, perhaps including surname & place.

Added. Or perhaps start a new topic on Ireland board and include a link back to this one? I'm just considering how to get input from more people who might tackle the enquiry using a variety of methods.

I only viewed this topic because my list of unread topics was very short yesterday. I don't usually look at topics on the DNA board.

[dwelch]

Ebby is a census error.  Ebby/Elmo was actually Edward, my grandfather.  He always gave his birthplace as Iowa in his adult census.  His birthdate, on record is August 30th 1855.

[dwelch]

I tried to attach census records that give Edward's birth as Iowa, but it failed.  As for Bridget Co. Tipperary  is her home base, as is her parents.  But I have a document for her as being baptised in Cork township.  Since all of this is on Ancestry, I am unable to share it.  But I'll try the url
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/39105428/person/322064324978/facts

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/39105428/person/322064324934/facts

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/39105428/person/19325752060/facts

[Maiden Stone]

Ebby is a census error.  Ebby/Elmo was actually Edward, my grandfather.  He always gave his birthplace as Iowa in his adult census.  His birthdate, on record is August 30th 1855.

Thanks for clearing that up. So Ireland as his birthplace on 1860 census may have been a transcription error?
Was Edward definitely the first child?
Have you found his baptism?

[dwelch]

 Edward, my Grandfather was the first child born to John and Bridget Welch Hennessy.  He gives his birthplace as Iowa in all census records.  However I did find this:

[aghadowey]

Have you searched for marriage of parents in N.Y.? They may have travelled from Ireland separately, met on the ship coming over or met in N.Y. and married there.
If they married in Ireland chances are they could have been from the same area but if no then it might be impossible to guess where John was from in Ireland.

[dwelch]

Birth year is the same.  Month is different. One is Oct 15th 1855 for Iowa.  Aug 11 1855 for New York.

[aghadowey]

Birth year is the same.  Month is different. One is Oct 15th 1855 for Iowa.  Aug 11 1855 for New York.

How do you know that Edward was born in Iowa on 15 Oct.1855? I would have thought too early for Iowa birth registration or is it from a later record?

[dwelch]

Ancestry won't let me see Edward's death certificate unless I pay up.  I can't find it on Family Search.
In all of Edward's census records he gives his parents birthplace as Ireland.  Most files I have saved to my computer will not open.
I truly think this is a lost cause search for a man who doesn't want to be found.
I'm sorry I put you all through this mess.