Peter Deasy lost his trail after 1891 Glamorganshire, Wales Census

[CaroleW]

In 1891 - Mary is not in the household. 

There is a Mary Dacey b Cork 1856 - married - in the Merthyr Tydfil Workhouse shown as a pauper inmate

[CaroleW]

The Elizabeth Ann Dacey b 1874 was illegitimate - no mothers maiden name shown

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[msbonbon65]

CaroleW,

I believe that Mary Dacey in the workhouse is Michael's wife she must have been sick because she is back with the family in 1901 and then she died in 1908. Thanks for the information on Elizabeth Ann Dacey, even though I can't explain the 6year gap between Michael & Mary's marriage in 1871 and the birth of their son James Dacey born 1877 I'm pretty sure they are my cousins. I found a picture today of Michael Patrick Dacey the grandson of Michael Deasy Jr in the family tree of someone researching this same family and the resemblance between him and the male Dacey's of the 3 branches of the Deasy/Dacey family that came to the states is uncanny. It wouldn't surprise me if they had a child or 2 that didn't survive child mortality was high back in those days or maybe they just didn't start having kids until 1877 as strange as it sounds.   Maria

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I have possible later sightings of Michael Dacey

1895 - sentenced to 7 days or pay 17/5 for breach of the Pubic Health Act. Place of birth noted as Glandore. he is however aged 62


1900 - imprisoned again for wilfully neglecting his children. Given 1 month hard labour. Aged 64. Born Co Cork
Mary Dacey aged 42 was committed for the same offence on the same date

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Mary has previous from 1896 for stealing a shirt, and a note of an earlier assault conviction in Cardiff. The 1896 entry notes b Co Cork

Peter Dacey aged 32, b Co Cork convicted of drunkenness in October 1886

[msbonbon65]

You post says “Born 25.6.1846”

In 1891 he is 32yrs old which does not equate to an 1846 birthyear??   His brother Michael is 35

Have you discounted the 1892 death in Merthyr for Peter Dacey aged 30?  No other Peter Dacey on the 1891 in Glamorgan

Hi Carole,

I have the ledger entry for the Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index for Michael Deasy and Mary Donovan it gives their ages as Michael 24 and Mary 19.

Ireland, Catholic Parish Baptism Registers
Michael Deasy baptism 4 Feb 1844 
Born: Cregg, Kilfaughnabeg Parish, Cork

Ireland, Catholic Parish Baptism Registers
Mary Donovan baptism 15 April 1854
Born: Cregg, Kilfaughnabeg, Cork, Ireland

The baptism dates show that at the time of their marriage their true ages were

Michael 27 and Mary 17

I believe they lied about their ages to shrink the age gap between them from 10 yrs to 5 yrs..

The baptisms show that Michael would be 37 on the 1881 Wales Census and Mary would be 27 which means that Michaels age is off by 7 yrs and Mary's is off by 2 yrs. Mary's age being off by 2 yrs is very plausible and Michael's age being off by 7 yrs is not impossible because the census takers I've been told were not highly educated people they came from the middle class and not everyone back then in the middle class went to school, so mistakes were bound to happen. Michael was 2 yrs older than Peter so their ages would have been close; as for the 1892 death for Peter Dacey I have only the Civil Registration Death Index online no ledger entry for this record, can't say anything for sure. I did put in my tree as there is nothing else for Peter Dacey after 1892, his nephew John Peter Dacey was named for him when he was born in 1892. So about 80% sure it's my Peter Dacey.   

Maria

[msbonbon65]

Mary has previous from 1896 for stealing a shirt, and a note of an earlier assault conviction in Cardiff. The 1896 entry notes b Co Cork

Peter Dacey aged 32, b Co Cork convicted of drunkenness in October 1886

I have possible later sightings of Michael Dacey

1895 - sentenced to 7 days or pay 17/5 for breach of the Pubic Health Act. Place of birth noted as Glandore. he is however aged 62


1900 - imprisoned again for wilfully neglecting his children. Given 1 month hard labour. Aged 64. Born Co Cork
Mary Dacey aged 42 was committed for the same offence on the same date

Hi Mabel,

Where did you find these entries? I'd like to know for my notes before adding to the family tree! Thanks!  Maria

[amondg]

To be sure it is your Peter's death  get the death certificate see who reported the death and the address where he was living.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Mary has previous from 1896 for stealing a shirt, and a note of an earlier assault conviction in Cardiff. The 1896 entry notes b Co Cork

Peter Dacey aged 32, b Co Cork convicted of drunkenness in October 1886

I have possible later sightings of Michael Dacey

1895 - sentenced to 7 days or pay 17/5 for breach of the Pubic Health Act. Place of birth noted as Glandore. he is however aged 62


1900 - imprisoned again for wilfully neglecting his children. Given 1 month hard labour. Aged 64. Born Co Cork
Mary Dacey aged 42 was committed for the same offence on the same date

Hi Mabel,

Where did you find these entries? I'd like to know for my notes before adding to the family tree! Thanks!  Maria

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