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Re: The September Covid Jab
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 17:45 BST (UK) »
Covid-19 is an abbreviation for coronavirsus disease of 2019, the year of its emergence.  There was no covid-17 or covid-18.
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Re: The September Covid Jab
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 17:48 BST (UK) »
Exactly so all these 'experts' can't have come across it before.

Just very wary of putting them on a pedestal as knowing everything about Covid 19, when it is so new that I don't think anybody can know that.  Yes they can extrapolate - but is that good enough.

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Re: The September Covid Jab
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 18:06 BST (UK) »


My main query really is not about having a further immunisation per se (have not had any side effects from previous ones) but I don't want to jump forward for a further one of the same old same old, which might prevent the administration of a more appropriate one against the current (and future) variations if only I had waited a few months.

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But what if a "more appropriate" vaccine does not emerge in a month or two?
You would then be going into the winter with little protection

Surely a bird in hand is worth two in the bush?

I. like others on here, will take whatever vaccine is offered as soon as I can
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Re: The September Covid Jab
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 18:32 BST (UK) »

They might never have encountered the Nevitts of Cheshire previously but it is quite likely that they have studied the Nevitts of Staffordshire so have a good working knowledge. 

Nobody has enountered Covid 17 or Covid 18 previously so does not have a good working knowledge of Covid 19.


There were no new coronavirus diseases causing epidemics in 2017 or 2018 as far as I know so there was no COVID-17 or COVID-18.
COVID-19, official name SARS-CoV-2, shares 70% of its' genetic makeup with SARS-CoV-1.
Those people who produced the first vaccines against COVID-19 didn't go from a standing start.
Leaps in knowledge have been enormous since January 2020.
Research and studies continue, some involving volunteers.

H1N1 influenza virus has caused 3 pandemics in the past 100 years. There are more than 200 flu viruses. They mutate and change every year. Annual flu vaccines are changed appropriately. H1N1 influenza virus is a zoonotic disease, having crossed over from a bird or animal species to humans.
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Re: The September Covid Jab
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 18:55 BST (UK) »

Just very wary of putting them on a pedestal as knowing everything about Covid 19, when it is so new that I don't think anybody can know that.  Yes they can extrapolate - but is that good enough.


They don't claim to know everything.
 
Links in my replies #1 and #9 to a virtual library of documents including "COVID-19 vaccines weekly surveillance reports" which is data on the real-world effectiveness and impact of COVID-19 vaccines.
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Re: The September Covid Jab
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 18:57 BST (UK) »
Whether you get yourself jabbed with a booster now, wait for a possibly better vaccine to be developed or say to hell with it altogether is up to you.  I have no expertise in any of the relevant scientific fields but I am less inclined than you to dismiss out-of-hand the guidance of people who do have such knowledge.

Beyond that, I am [perhaps naively] confident that the government of Ecuador will continue to make vaccines available to the people of this country.  So far, that has been the case and they have vaccinated me for free even though I am not a citizen but, rather, a resident alien.

Covid is on the upswing again here, as it is around the world.  I don't know which variants are currently most prevalent in Ecuador but, for my own protection and the protection of those around me, I think it is my responsibility to keep myself maximally vaccinated.  Should an improved vaccine become available here in the future, I will get myself shot again.
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Re: The September Covid Jab
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 19:21 BST (UK) »

There were no new coronavirus diseases causing epidemics in 2017 or 2018 as far as I know so there was no COVID-17 or COVID-18.
COVID-19, official name SARS-CoV-2, shares 70% of its' genetic makeup with SARS-CoV-1.
Those people who produced the first vaccines against COVID-19 didn't go from a standing start.
Leaps in knowledge have been enormous since January 2020.
Research and studies continue, some involving volunteers.

H1N1 influenza virus has caused 3 pandemics in the past 100 years. There are more than 200 flu viruses. They mutate and change every year. Annual flu vaccines are changed appropriately. H1N1 influenza virus is a zoonotic disease, having crossed over from a bird or animal species to humans.

I know Covid 17/18 didn't exist - I am using a similar kind of example as Erato did re the Nevitts.
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Re: The September Covid Jab
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 19:26 BST (UK) »

 Should an improved vaccine become available here in the future, I will get myself shot again.

That is the crux of the matter Erato.  Will am improved vaccine be available to those who have had the most recent top up?  I know this is like how long is a piece of string but maybe someone will decide:
You can't have the improved one within 6 months of a previous one or
You can't have the improved one if you had had a previous one

I just don't want to find I've jumped in too quickly and deprived myself of the better one by stepping up to the plate too eagerly for the current one.

That is what my musing was about really and presumably no-one knows the answer but wondered what anybody else was cogitating.

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Re: The September Covid Jab
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 19:43 BST (UK) »

I just don't want to find I've jumped in too quickly and deprived myself of the better one by stepping up to the plate too eagerly for the current one.

That is what my musing was about really and presumably no-one knows the answer but wondered what anybody else was cogitating.

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And in the meantime you might catch Covid.

No cogitating for me, I'll be there with my sleeve rolled up as soon as it's offered.
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