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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #72 on: Sunday 07 August 22 22:54 BST (UK) »
Back again - sorry.

Which parish did they marry in?

Is there a residence for her on the marriage?

There are published trees which give her father as Maurice but there is no supporting evidence for the marriage which they also have as 1892.
The census info for Maurice and family is also wrong as daughter Johanna is still at home in 1901.
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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #73 on: Sunday 07 August 22 23:00 BST (UK) »
Not necessarily also she should have showed as widow but she does not. As I explained I have all the records it all fits and happy withwhat ai have found. So on thst note. I appreciate  all your help. Thanks everynone.

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #74 on: Sunday 07 August 22 23:19 BST (UK) »
Ok. I understand you are happy with your findings. It seems to have been a long journey.
Best wishes.
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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #75 on: Monday 08 August 22 10:22 BST (UK) »
After all the comments i got here I thought i best re check all the documentation and was shocked to see the Johanna father's name was O'Connor which is totally wrong it should say Walsh. So thank you for casting doubt in my mind when I was sure it was correct. Back to the drawn board!! It's deflated me as put so much in to finding correct evidence I messed up.!!!


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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #76 on: Monday 08 August 22 10:36 BST (UK) »
This happens to us all at some time.
I think the thread is confusing now, as we have all tried to find the right people.
It might be best to draw together those things that are known.

John’s marriage - father Patrick both labourers.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1919/09687/5513444.pdf

His residence Oola Hills, Oola.

You know where he lived subsequently and his death in Dublin in 1969 gives his age as 74 yrs. therefore born around 1895.
His residence Ballybrian, Tipperary.

Parish records you have show his parents as Patrick O’Connor and Johanna Walsh.
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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #77 on: Monday 08 August 22 10:40 BST (UK) »
When he married, a witness was John Mulcahy.

This is the only one I see in Oola district.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Oola/Moanoola/644187/

It might be that your John, as a labourer just happened to be working in the area and was not necessarily from there.
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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #78 on: Monday 08 August 22 11:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you ,  I am devastated I was so sure it was right.  So agree this thread is what to confusing now.  the last few links above are correct. Here is Johanna and Patrick Marriage cert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1879/11063/8047577.pdf
 and here is John birth certificate, both records are under Tralee, so my grandfather was not illegitimate so when his father died, which I can not find now he was young at some point he was in Oola as he married my Grandmother. here is there marriage certificate, that is all correct
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1919/09687/5513444.pdf
Thanks every one, I feel like giving up!!!

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #79 on: Monday 08 August 22 11:31 BST (UK) »
You say here is John’s birth certificate but haven’t posted it.
It would help as there could be (although we have not found them) other couples with the same names. As your thread title says - ‘too many’.
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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #80 on: Monday 08 August 22 11:59 BST (UK) »
Been looking for potential siblings of John, marrying early 1900s etc. There was no O Connor marriages in Tralee in between 1902-1906 with father Patrick.

these are the only ones I could find in Kerry and Limerick:

William O Connor / Margaret Riordan, 1913
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09877/5587821.pdf

Michael O Connor / Johanna Shanahan, 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09952/5618575.pdf

John Fitzgibbon / Johanna O Connor, 1908
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10059/5658642.pdf

Patrick O’Connor / Mary Quinlivan 1906
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10139/5689155.pdf

I know most of these are not likely, but i think they are worth sharing anyway :)