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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 06 August 22 14:11 BST (UK) »
Strange because when I mentioned to my cousins they always thought he was younger Once I had the church marriage certificate there was a dispensation it did not say what just the Rev allowed the marriage. Could be because my Grandmother  was only 19 and Grandfather just had full age. Still surprised he was so.much older.

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 06 August 22 14:23 BST (UK) »
If luck might have it, I think I have found him staying with relatives in 1911 his age was given as 29 and single http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Kilgobban/Foilatrisnig/280611/
its in his home area, working in a shop/ Drapery. So he had O'Sullivan family

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 06 August 22 15:03 BST (UK) »
This family is really confusing me ::) There is no correlating birth record with correct parents, no census records, they are noted as living in Limerick but married in Tralee, i’ve tried to look for death certificates for both Patrick and Johanna in Limerick or Kerry and found nothing, John is not noted as being 40 on his marriage record, he would’ve been 90 when he died but is noted as 74.

The only theory I can suggest is that the John that was born in 1879 died young and the name was reused, however I can’t find any death certificate ??? Do you have any pictures of him? Maybe folks on the photograph dating part of the website could try and estimate his age at the time of the picture? I think the 1926 census could help your problem but we might be waiting a while ::)

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 06 August 22 15:16 BST (UK) »
Agree its more thank confusing till I find his siblings its hard to know if there was another John. I am on my Phone and don't see how to add a pic. There stored on my phone


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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 06 August 22 17:29 BST (UK) »
It is very odd and I have my doubts about him being your ancestor.
This is relevant to the family you have highlighted lately - living in Foilatrisnig, Kilgobban.

1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Kilgobban/Foilatrisnig/1429022/
The Sullivans have 5 children.

1911 census - you posted earlier
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Kilgobban/Foilatrisnig/280611/
4 children born and 3 are still living

There are so many Sullivan births to search it is difficult.

However:
1884.      Michael with mother Johanna formerly Walsh

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02686/1989472.pdf

1886. Bridget with mother Johanna formerly Walsh

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02609/1963538.pdf

1888.  Mary with mother Johanna formerly Walsh

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02511/1931019.pdf

1891
Patrick with mother Johanna - formerly Connor

I can’t find a birth for John

I wonder if this is Johanna Walsh who married Patrick Connor.

I also wonder if John, ‘the son’ in 1901 is John ‘the relative’ in 1911.

There is a death for Patrick Connor, 30yrs in 1881 but the informant is Johanna Connir - mother!
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1881/06418/4843643.pdf

Then I can’t find a marriage for Dennis Sullivan and Johanna Connor or Walsh.

But there is a death for Cain O’ Connor, 74 yrs and married same townland in 1879. The informant Johanna but no relationship given.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1881/06418/4843643.pdf

I don’t have time at the moment, but one would expect Cain’s wife to be Johanna so there should be a death for her.

This is such a long post and may have no relevance whatsoever as you have that Limerick reference to his parents on the parish records.
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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 06 August 22 17:40 BST (UK) »
This is a brilliant post thank you  and I will check it out, Patrick  Connor  (my Grandfathers dad)  father was Cain Connor and his Mother was Mary Cronin not Johanna. She's siblings were twins Honora an Mary. I.will go over the rest shortly I have seen shot lots but will go back and get links. Thank you so much. I have a headache from looking haha

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #51 on: Saturday 06 August 22 19:01 BST (UK) »
Just to add another Sullivan/Connor connection, there are multiple early 1880s baptisms with father Patrick Connor and Johanna Sullivan on rootsireland.

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 06 August 22 19:37 BST (UK) »
This is a brilliant post thank you  and I will check it out, Patrick  Connor  (my Grandfathers dad)  father was Cain Connor and his Mother was Mary Cronin not Johanna. She's siblings were twins Honora an Mary. I.will go over the rest shortly I have seen shot lots but will go back and get links. Thank you so much. I have a headache from looking haha

I don’t know where your information comes from but there was a Cain Connor in Foilatrisnig in Griffiths Valuation.   

There are two deaths in Tralee district
1) 1866 so no details but that Cain is 80 yrs
2) the one I posted in 1879, 74 yrs.

There may be other sightings elsewhere.

It is all speculative though. It seems so odd that John’s parents are named in 1919 with their residence  :-\
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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #53 on: Saturday 06 August 22 19:45 BST (UK) »
I have just seen a couple of transcriptions of that marriage

Feb 28th 1843 Gortacunig, Killarney
Cain Connor and Mary Cronin.

I think you need to be wary of these findings. I know it’s hard.
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