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Offline Annette7

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #18 on: Monday 25 July 22 02:23 BST (UK) »
John Joseph Connors born 19/3/1894 Limerick, son of John Connors and Mary Ann McCoy (no O'connor with a John Joseph in the timeframe 1894-1895 in Limerick).

Think this is the John Joseph in question so.......sorry!

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #19 on: Monday 25 July 22 02:57 BST (UK) »
John Joseph Connors born 19/3/1894 Limerick, son of John Connors and Mary Ann McCoy (no O'connor with a John Joseph in the timeframe 1894-1895 in Limerick).

Think this is the John Joseph in question so.......sorry!

Annette

So from this it looks as though many used Connor/O'Connor/Connors interchangeably as Mary McCoy/'O'Connor/Hayes used O'Connor on the 1901 census. 

Just to close the circle does this Mary Ann McCoy later marry James Hayes and is she the one who is shown on the 1901 census with a 7 year old John O'Connor? 

ETA we are looking for a John O'Connor.  I put the Joseph in as that was what was on the census. 

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #20 on: Monday 25 July 22 05:39 BST (UK) »
Right
Different tack
On Griffiths Valuation in 1851  there is a Patrick Connors leasing land from a Morgan Hayes in Oola parish Shanaclogh West Townland. There is a house on this property.   In addition he leases land in Oolahills West Oola Township to a John Hyde.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rpl/

Also living in Shanaclogh West Township are the following O'Connell, Darmody, Fitzgerald,hewitt Rafferty, Hayes and Dwyer and the railway. 
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rpm/

Also on Griffiths there are 11 references to Patrick O'Connor owning or leasing land. NONE of this land is in Oola.  The link shrink is not working for me now. 

https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=43&Submit.y=7&familyname=o%27connor&firstname=patrick&baronyname=&countyname=LIMERICK&unionname=&parishname=

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #21 on: Monday 25 July 22 06:31 BST (UK) »
Back looking for a birth of a John O'Connor to a Patrick O'Connor.
Here is one from 1890 - 27/5/1890.

Father is Patrick O'Connor who is a coachman and the mother is Mary O'Connor formerly Herbert. They lived in Augustinian Place Limerick City - registered in the No4 Registrars District.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02424/1903188.pdf

Here is the marriage of Patrick O'Connor and Mary Herbert 24/1/1887
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10798/5937944.pdf

His father is Maurice O'Connor who is a farmer and I have seen some records about him while on this mission!


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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #22 on: Monday 25 July 22 16:40 BST (UK) »
So many variables. Its so hard to pin point and this is my dilemma. OK I will see how that pans out. Thank you all for your help. Appreciated :)

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 26 July 22 23:04 BST (UK) »
Hi, Did you tell me that a cousin told you that John O'Connor might have been born in Castleconnor?
I have found a Patrick and Johanna (mmn English) Connors in the Griffith Valuations of 1851, just 1 mile from Ballybrien.
They had 7 children, 1 died, have only found 4 children sofar, living together.
Michael    b1890 Oola
Bridget     b1892 Oola
Josie        b1896 Oola
Catherine b1900 Oola
with father Patrick and mother Johanna living nextdoor.
Patrick and Michael was a Railway porters.
pos married in Castleconnor.
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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 26 July 22 23:18 BST (UK) »
Hello Trevor my cousin said It was Castleconnell ?

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 11:28 BST (UK) »
Ok There is a Patrick O'Connor mar Anne Dalton Castleconnor 7 Aug 1877,
then a John Connors bap 2 Sept 1878 Castleconnor to a Patrick Connors and a Johanna Dalton.
If this was the first child who died, then a second John born later between Bridget 1892 and Johanna 1895.
Also if this Patrick had a father Patrick will make it fit with Oola.

Who lives at Ballybrien since John 1896?

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Re: To many John O'Connors
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 11:40 BST (UK) »
Hello Trevor,
Castleconnor ? it needs to be Castleconnell! from what my cousins in Tipperary recall.  If you ment Castleconnell  that may tie up.
 :). This has been my brick wall for 20 years.
Appreciate you help.